Hardcore Christian Music, whats your opinion on it?

[soxboy90]

There are a few songs that are ok...but I cant stand screamo music,It burns my ears off,I cant hear what they are saying and for all I know they could be saying something bad

Also on the image of the bands...i have seen some supposed Christian bands that look they were drug up from below (no offense to anyone of course...just my opinion). Seriously, If you are a christian band at least try to look Christian (and act like it of course)

uh, what does a christian look like?

No offense but...unless you can point out specifics and say how they contradict scripture your treading on dangerous ground theologically with a statement like this.

Now, I have seen some supposedly Christian bands who were overtly sexual...which is the opposite of modest, which is a violation of scripture....

I mean how some "Christian" bands wear dark makeup, all black,revealing clothes, nose rings,mohawks,etc. I have seen bands who claim to be Christian look like this and frankly i find it disturbing as do many others,im sure.

As per your second point, I'm sorry i should have been more clear...like you say ive seen Christian bands who are very sexual and also some that have swearing in the lyrics.

Leviticus 19:28 says,

Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves...

James 5:12:

Above all, my brothers and sisters, do not swear - not by Heaven or by Earth or by anything else. All you need to say is a simple "yes" or "no." Otherwise you will be condemned.

[Guest willing servant]

Unreserved apology to Mr Jacobson.

Last time you obviously had views on how christian heavy metal music should be dealt with. I rejected those views in a relatively poor fashion. Since consulting with God and in fellowship I feel I have overstepped my boundaries in my post. This is clearly something you have a conviction about. I will always consider you to be wrong on the subject, but the fact of the matter is that the issue is between you and God and no one else. Not you and I, not I and God, but God and you. So while I reserve my right to reject what you are saying, I certainly have no right to question the spirit in which your conviction is made. This is the error which causes church to split. Ultimately it has nothing to do with salvation your or mine. So in that spirit I unreservedly apologise and hope you would accept the apology in the spirit that it is given.

Eagerly awaiting your reply

Willing servant

[Guest willing servant]

Unreserved apology to Mr Jacobson.

Last time you obviously had views on how christian heavy metal music should be dealt with. I rejected those views in a relatively poor fashion. Since consulting with God and in fellowship I feel I have overstepped my boundaries in my post. This is clearly something you have a conviction about. I will always consider you to be wrong on the subject, but the fact of the matter is that the issue is between you and God and no one else. Not you and I, not I and God, but God and you. So while I reserve my right to reject what you are saying, I certainly have no right to question the spirit in which your conviction is made. This is the error which causes church to split. Ultimately it has nothing to do with salvation your or mine. So in that spirit I unreservedly apologise and hope you would accept the apology in the spirit that it is given.

Eagerly awaiting your reply

Willing servant

[allmylove4ugrowsdeeper]

Isa 30:32 As the LORD strikes them again and again, his people will keep time with the music of drums and harps. God himself will fight against the Assyrians.

This music mentioned here, is it love songs or war marches?

Luk 7:32 They are like children sitting in the marketplace. One group shouts to the other, 'We played wedding music for you, but you wouldn't dance! We sang funeral songs, but you wouldn't cry!'

Luk 7:33 John the Baptist came, and he fasted and drank no wine, and you said, 'He has a demon in him!'

Luk 7:34 The Son of Man came, and he ate and drank, and you said, 'Look at this man! He is a glutton and wine drinker, a friend of tax collectors and other outcasts!'

Luk 7:35 God's wisdom, however, is shown to be true by all who accept it."

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Psa 32:11 You that are righteous, be glad and rejoice because of what the LORD has done. You that obey him, shout for joy!

Psa 33:1 All you that are righteous, shout for joy for what the LORD has done; praise him, all you that obey him.

Psa 33:3 Sing a new song to him, play the harp with skill, and shout for joy!

Psa 68:3 But the righteous are glad and rejoice in his presence; they are happy and shout for joy.

Psa 71:23 I will shout for joy as I play for you; with my whole being I will sing because you have saved me.

Psa 81:1 Shout for joy to God our defender; sing praise to the God of Jacob!

Psa 98:6 Blow trumpets and horns, and shout for joy to the LORD, our king.

Psa 149:6 Let them shout aloud as they praise God, with their sharp swords in their hands

Isa 12:6 Let everyone who lives in Zion shout and sing! Israel's holy God is great, and he lives among his people."

Isa 42:13 The LORD goes out to fight like a warrior; he is ready and eager for battle. He gives a war cry, a battleshout ; he shows his power against his enemies.

Isa 44:23 shout for joy, you heavens! shout , deep places of the earth! Shout for joy, mountains, and every tree of the forest! The LORD has shown his greatness by saving his people Israel.

sa 49:13 Sing, heavens! shout for joy, earth! Let the mountains burst into song! The LORD will comfort his people; he will have pity on his suffering people.

Isa 54:1 Jerusalem, you have been like a childless woman, but now you can sing and shout for joy. Now you will have more children than a woman whose husband never

left her.

I see a common theme here....SHOUT!

Who is anyone to say what type of music is pleasing to God?

It is not the instrument or the volume.. it is the HEART behind the worship. Worship in spirit and truth.

Legalism is a deadly disease.

Yes, we are to make a joyful noise unto the Lord, Sing, and praise him, shout, make melody to the Lord, we can do this in a Godly way, we do not have to imitate the world, sometimes scripture is taken out of context. It sounds to me like allmylove4u does not see beyond what has been said. Yes, legalism is a deadly disease, but remember God will not be mocked. YSIC Littlelite.

Oh my dear sister I would not mock God (at least not knowingly). Jesus is very much the center of my life. "You say we do not have to imitate the world".

I say we MUST not.

Yes sometimes scripture is taken out of context. That is a fact.

You say "It seems I do not see beyond what is being said".

Please enlighten me.

I say if someone wants to worship the Lord with an electric guitar, then by all means crank it up. I am a musician I write and play contemporary Christian music. I have had people tell me that God did not

[allmylove4ugrowsdeeper]

Unreserved apology to Mr Jacobson.

Last time you obviously had views on how christian heavy metal music should be dealt with. I rejected those views in a relatively poor fashion. Since consulting with God and in fellowship I feel I have overstepped my boundaries in my post. This is clearly something you have a conviction about. I will always consider you to be wrong on the subject, but the fact of the matter is that the issue is between you and God and no one else. Not you and I, not I and God, but God and you. So while I reserve my right to reject what you are saying, I certainly have no right to question the spirit in which your conviction is made. This is the error which causes church to split. Ultimately it has nothing to do with salvation your or mine. So in that spirit I unreservedly apologise and hope you would accept the apology in the spirit that it is given.

Eagerly awaiting your reply

Willing servant

What an awesome post.

Be Blessed!

Be Encouraged!

[Guest]

{but remember God will not be mocked.}

Mercy! Mercy!

"But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against his people, till there was no remedy."

(2 Chronicles 36:16 )

Mercy! Mercy!

"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

"For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting."

(Galatians 6:7-8 )

Grace! Grace!

"Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

(Ephesians 5:19 )

[allmylove4ugrowsdeeper]

Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

KJV

[LadyRaven]

Wow, I'm not realy sure i should comment on this but.......

I have been struggling with this topic since I've come to Cali, helping these teens that listen to all sorts of "Christian Music".... and i always come back to this......from a mile away can u tell if it is a Rock concert or a "Christian Rock" concert?

And does it realy Glorify God or flesh? Nothing wrong with entertainment, but to call it "Christian" I think is decietful, do we take porn and turn it into "Christian Porn"? Or gambling into "Christian Gambling"? Be honest with yourself and ask yourself do i listen to it to Glorify God or because i like it, and its close to what i listened to before i got saved! Then fine listen to it if u like it but dont say its beacuse it Glorifies God, because inreality u listen to it for your self pleasure!!!!

Rachel

You really can't make a parallel between porn and CCM or hardcore CM, because porn is innately sinful, whereas music is not. The contents of the music determine its morality. A more appropriate parallel is "Christian Literature" or "Christian Art", not porno or gambling. You can't make a comparison between apples and oranges.

Oh but i can parallel porn and gambling with music, because like i said before.... it is for entertainment...and is addicting like porno and gambling. Yes addicting.....I was addicted to music!

There is way more to it than just words.... it goes to the soul!

Anyway, I knew i wouldn't be popular with this opinion...ahhh well!!!

Rachel

Anything can be an addiction, I've been addicted to food. However, food consumption is not a sin, neither is music. Addictions have nothing to do with the thing you are addicted to and everything to do with the state of the soul and needing something to pour into it to cover something else.

Porno is a sin even for someone who is not addicted to it, that is a big difference. Like apples and oranges.

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