I Samuel 19:9

[Guest shiloh357]

Some people believe a "gap" theory

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The gap theory holds to a previous creation that was corrupted when Satan tried to overthrow God. Many place the war in heaven as having taken place at that time. Also, many have tried to harmonize the Bible with evolution by saying that such a gap would account for an old earth and all lthe fossils.Allegedly, this occured between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. As the story goes, God destroyed that world and the creation account we read of from verse 2 and following is basically a recreation of what God destroyed.

The major flaw in that theory is the origin of sin. The Bible does not trace sin and death back before the fall of Adam. Death in our universe is a product of Adam's sin. That is why all creation groans for the day of redemption according to Romans 8. If there were a previous earth that God had to destroy, then sin would have been present prior to Adam and would have mentioned in Scripture. That would seriously torpedo what Paul wrote in Romans 5 about sin coming through one man, Adam. On that basis, I cannot personally accept the gap theory.

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Hi Calamity and shiloh357

I have heard about "gap theory" before but I never knew what it was thanks for giving me some knowledge of it. I believe the universe was created when it was created

The gap theory holds to a previous creation that was corrupted when Satan tried to overthrow God. Many place the war in heaven as having taken place at that time.

One look at the book of job would dispel the theory that satan and his angels where dispelled from heaven before Job. I feel this rebellion occurred during the time of Jesus. But before that satan was contending with God trying to demonstrate he was Gods equal.

Paul wrote in Romans 5 about sin coming through one man, Adam.

Romans 5: 12

12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned

Shiloh, it says to me that through adam sin entered the world. That is that sin existed before adam but it entered into the universe through adam. To my thinking Gods creation (the universe) was perfect until satan deceived adam and eve.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[Guest Calamity]

Adstar: "One look at the book of job would dispel the theory that satan and his angels where dispelled from heaven before Job. I feel this rebellion occurred during the time of Jesus. But before that satan was contending with God trying to demonstrate he was Gods equal."

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Now, this is something I've also wondered about. Satan is our 'accuser', now, isn't he? So, does he still have limited access to accuse us, like he was doing in Job, or does he do it some other way?

[Guest shiloh357]

Adstar: "One look at the book of job would dispel the theory that satan and his angels where dispelled from heaven before Job. I feel this rebellion occurred during the time of Jesus. But before that satan was contending with God trying to demonstrate he was Gods equal."

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Now, this is something I've also wondered about. Satan is our 'accuser', now, isn't he? So, does he still have limited access to accuse us, like he was doing in Job, or does he do it some other way?

Now, this is something I've also wondered about. Satan is our 'accuser', now, isn't he? So, does he still have limited access to accuse us, like he was doing in Job, or does he do it some other way?

I think he does. I also think that he really tries to play on your conscience. You ever had that feeling that you have let God down and you don't even want to look at yourself in the mirror? That is the condemnation that Satan uses against you. I think that Satan accuses you to yourself. He tries to make people believe that they have let God down so many times, or in such a way, that God would not forgive them.

That is why we must confess our sins to God on a regular basis. When you sin, don't run from God; run to Him.

[Guest Teri]

The gap theory is something I stumbled on once, and really just blew it off without going to far into it. It doesn't fit with Genesis and is wrong. But thanks for the extra info. A couple of interesting questions come up in all of this. Sin did enter the world through Adam, but did sin exist in heaven before the fall of Adam. As we know it was in heaven that Satan sold his wares, or in our language ran around and gossiped about God and started a rebellion. But heaven isn't the world, it's heaven. Does anyone have a way to put together a time frame on this, which came first Satan's rebellion in heaven or Adams fall.

It is also my understanding because of Revelations chapter 12 that at the time of Christ's death Satan and all his followers were tossed out of heaven to the earth. So wouldn't this mean that Satan no longer has access to accuse us before God's throne?

Revelations 12:12 also shows us that heaven and earth are two totally different places. Therefore refoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea. I'm referring to that because through Adam sin entered this world but could it be possible Satan was already committing sin in heaven before that in his rebellion? I'm sure there's a way to put this time frame together but I'm not finding it. Anyone else?

In Yeshua's love

Teri

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Now, this is something I've also wondered about. Satan is our 'accuser', now, isn't he? So, does he still have limited access to accuse us, like he was doing in Job, or does he do it some other way?

Luke 10

17 Then the seventy[5] returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name."

18And He said to them, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather[6] rejoice because your names are written in heaven."

Did Jesus see it happening? or did He see a future event? I feel He saw it as it happening. satan may be free to attack us and deceive us but i do not think he still has access to the throne room of heaven.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days