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Praise The Lord !!!

Here is something that I have been researching and have found some very interesting results. In Matthew 28:19 Jesus told the Disciples to teach all nations and baptize them in the name of the father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. When I look in the the Bible though I do not see where that was done, I see where they baptized in the either the name of Jesus Christ, in the name of Jesus, in the name of the Lord Jesus, or in the name of the Lord. Why does it not ever say that they did it in the way that is described in Matthew? There are many scholars who claim that the early church did not baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, but that they did so in the name of Jesus Christ. What do you make of this? If this is true then why has it changed? If it is false then what did the apostle's do and why?

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I had a Pentecostal lady tell me one time that Jesus is the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I don't know how she got that but in a way I do. I just don't understand it. She tried to deny the trinity in effect. It seems that God was the Father in the Old Testament and then He turned into Jesus on earth, and then He sent himself back as the Comforter, the Holy Spirit. This is all confusing to me since we are to pray to the Father in Jesus name and let the Holy Spirit pray for us. Anyway, that is why they believe they are only to baptise in Jesus name. I can tell you what they believe but I can not tell you why.

They or at least these people didn't believe that God was in heaven sitting on His throne and Jesus was seated on his right hand while the Holy Spirit is on earth. They believe that God had different jobs at different times in different ages.

I know I believe it was Peter that was baptising in Jesus name only. I was baptised in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. We have to remember that Jesus never baptised anyone in water. He baptises in the Holy Ghost.

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Greetings Dove2,

We have to remember that Jesus never baptised anyone in water.

Actually this is what was said:

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

John 4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples)

The first can be read in the Greek - "and there he tarried and baptized."

The second verse can be read in the Greek - "Jesus baptized ONLY his disciples".

Sorry to be nitpicky, but I have debated this with many and there are many who misinterpret those verses.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

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Praise The Lord !!!

Here is something that I have been researching and have found some very interesting results. In Matthew 28:19 Jesus told the Disciples to teach all nations and baptize them in the name of the father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. When I look in the the Bible though I do not see where that was done, I see where they baptized in the either the name of Jesus Christ, in the name of Jesus, in the name of the Lord Jesus, or in the name of the Lord. Why does it not ever say that they did it in the way that is described in Matthew? There are many scholars who claim that the early church did not baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, but that they did so in the name of Jesus Christ. What do you make of this? If this is true then why has it changed? If it is false then what

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Amen Bunky,

I also see being baptised in the Name of Jesus as the proper way of water baptism. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are titles, but Jesus said be baptized in the Name of.

Now please be gentle with me brothers and sisters.

In the book of John when Jesus is in prayer to the Father He makes this curious statement

"....Holy Father, keep them in Your Name, The Name which you have given Me, that they may be one even as We are one" John 17:11 NASB

Now the Name the Father gave Him is Jesus

And as has already been stated, Jesus said He came in His Fathers name.

And then take into account that the Apostles baptized in the Name of Jesus, and too me anyway by there example in the Name of Jesus is the proper way.

But some are touchy on this subject, and I am not trying to offend, this is just what my conscience has told me. So I was rebaptised.

Now an example of someone being re-baptised into the Name of Jesus is found in Acts 19.

Dove, these people who believe in the oneness doctrine you had mentioned, are they perhaps Apostolic?

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The important thing about baptism is what it symbolizes: The putting off of the old self, and the putting on of the new. It symbolizes the fact that we have died to sin and have been resurrected to new life in Christ. Some do it in the name of Jesus, others, in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The important thing is that our lives are demonstration of the truth embodied in Baptism. Baptism does not save us, nor does it add to our salvation. It is just symbolic.

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Hi Shiloh

No arguments here, One must follow their own conscience on this one.

Mine told me to be baptized in the Name of Jesus. Because it appears to me to be the example set forth.

But as you have said baptism is an act of obedience and not an act of salvation.

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Baptism is part of the Gospel--Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38 and many others clearly state this. I am doing a study on this...

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Baptism is part of the Gospel--Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38 and many others clearly state this. I am doing a study on this...

Hey Endure,

I think we all agree on this. I hope you share with us what God shows you in your study.

But how do feel about the proper procedure for baptism?

should one be baptized in the name of the Father, Son, And the Holy Spirit or simply in the name of Jesus?

In Jesus

Kevin

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Baptism is part of the Gospel--Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38 and many others clearly state this.  I am doing a study on this...

Hey Endure,

I think we all agree on this. I hope you share with us what God shows you in your study.

Hi Kevin! I think you must have misunderstood me.

I feel that obedience to Christ's commands is necissary for salvation (as He clearly taught), and baptism is a direct commandment of Christ (the great commission), so baptism is required for salvation.

I don't know about the 2nd part of your question:

But how do feel about the proper procedure for baptism?

should one be baptized in the name of the Father, Son, And the Holy Spirit or simply in the name of Jesus?

I have never considered the question. All I know is what I read in the Bible and if it says do one thing, just do it! If the clear teaching handed down by the apostles is recorded, then it will suffice.

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