Questions about healing

[Tatie]

I came across this verse which encouraged me to believe God doesn't mind when you ask for what you need, I used to kind of beg him appologizing for bothering him with my needs:

Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

How bold one should be?

[wordsower]

Tatie,

I am so sorry to hear this news. I don't want to sound weird or mystical or anything, but I would like to give you a couple of things to consider:

I believe there is significance in the fact that "by His stripes we are healed."

In 1 Cor. 11:24 it says, quoting Jesus, "Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you, do this in rememberence of Me."

We always talk about the blood, it saves us it redeems us, nothing but the blood of Jesus! But what about the meantime while we are in this body of death?

Go down to 1 Cor. 11:26-31 it says as often as you eat the bread and drink the cup you proclaim the Lord's death until He comes, but you must do it in a worthy manner and DISCERN the Lord's body.

Many are not discerning the Lord's body, verse 30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep.

I believe this means that as a church we don't really understand the suffering of our Lord's body is to sustain us, for our healing, for our physical bodies. We preach the blood, we understand the atonement but we don't say much about the bread. The manna in the wilderness kept the children of Israel healthy, it sustained them.

Point being, If the Spirit leads you, I would get some juice and crackers and take the Lord's supper every single day, discerning the body and of course repenting of any sin beforehand, as an act of faith and claim your right to a long life as written in Psalm 91:16 With long life I will satisfy him, and show him my salvation.

Blessings and prayers to you sister, please keep us updated!

[Tatie]

Thank you, wordsower. What do I say when I take the juice and crackers? I only done in the church before and was a passive participant and don't remember the words to say.

[Tatie]

I think I got my answer how active of a participant I should be in healing. I must submit totally to God and let him heal me.

[wordsower]

Thank you, wordsower. What do I say when I take the juice and crackers? I only done in the church before and was a passive participant and don't remember the words to say.

It doesn't matter what you say, it matters that you understand what it represents. If you'd like something to say read 1 Cor. 11:23-26

Blessings to you Tatie, and don't be afraid to see Dr.'s, that doesn't mean your faith is weak. God uses Dr.'s to heal, He uses people to work through. He is the one doing the healing either way! Just don't doubt! (See James 1:5-8)

[Tatie]

Thank you again, wordsower! But what about these verses:

1Co 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

[The Journey]

I think we may be victims of the KJV confusion regarding these words of Paul.

Here is the same passage in the NLT.

"For every time you eat this bread and drink this cup, you are announcing the Lord's death until he comes again. So if anyone eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord unworthily, that person is guilty of sinning against the body and the blood of the Lord. That is why you should examine yourself before eating the bread and drinking from the cup. For if you eat the bread or drink the cup unworthily, not honoring the body of Christ, you are eating and drinking God's judgment upon yourself. That is why many of you are weak and sick and some have even died. But if we examine ourselves, we will not be examined by God and judged in this way."

The Eucharist had been turned into a party. Eating, drinking and debauchery. The Lord passed judgement on the Corinthian Church because they were playing marbles with diamonds. But this is not a mystic recipe for eternal life.

- Steve

[godrulz]

In cultural context, not discerning the Body did have something to do with the Body of Christ, as in the Church, not mass/communion per se. I Cor. 11:18 ff. talk about divisions, haughty cliques, and some having 'hotdogs' while others had 'steak' at the meal before the Lord's Supper.

Tatie: I went forward at church in proxy for you and my wife (MS) as the Pastor called us to a point of contact to meet the Healer. The presence of God was palpable.

Heb. 11:6 "And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists, and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him."

James 5:13-18 There is more than one way that God brings healing (e.g. we pray, others pray, laying on of hands, elders, spit in the eye, command, etc.)

[Tatie]

Thank you, journey. I wish it was clear than just "examine" ourselves and "unworthy", but assumptions based on the doctine will have to make due.

godrulz, thank you so much. WHY IS IT SO HARD TO SIMPLY BELIEVE THAT GOD WILL HEAL YOU? I mean it is cancer, but I shouldn't think of it as a big deal, to God it's nothing.

[St. John]

Tatie, stand strong in the Lord and in the Power of His Might. You are His child and you were created for His pleasure, to love Him and to be loved by Him. Pleasure the Father with your adoration and Worship.

I find it so wonderful when my son just comes up to me for "seemingly" no reason at all and just hugs me and says "love you dad" and just stays secure in my arms for 10 minutes or more. I want God to feel that same pleasure that I get from my son, with me. I picture Jesus holding me and me just enjoying his loving presence and adoring Him with my whole heart. I picture Him smiling at me and happy because I bring him happiness.

God is so magnificent. Love and Light beyond our comprehension. He is worthy of our praise and worship and love and adoration. Worship God no matter what circumstances are love Him and people as if you were to be standing before Him today. You will find as you get a revelation of His Love and His pleasure in your existence that you are able to Love others as God does. And Faith works by Love.

God Bless you.