Why are you even here?

[billie]

Explain?

She means she hoes those powers of yours will be able to save you from death.

[Openly Curious]

Only God offers freedom for all things that hinder: fear, loneliness, lack, grief, pain, sickness, worry, addictions, and lastly: freedom from lies!

I have overcome fear, loneliness, grief, sickness, addictions and lies totally under my own power.

I hope it's still there at your death door.

OC

Explain?

Your kidding right. What you don't have any answers to this in your own power? You explain

[billie]

Your kidding right. What you don't have any answers to this in your own power? You explain

[Emissary]

The creation itself is my evidence of the Creator that I love and serve. And I retain that knowledge of my Creator within my knowledge by faith. So it's not hairy to me at all. It's only hairy to those closed minded to the Creator and fail to worship him as such.

Which part of the creation are you using as evidence?

[Openly Curious]

The creation itself is my evidence of the Creator that I love and serve. And I retain that knowledge of my Creator within my knowledge by faith. So it's not hairy to me at all. It's only hairy to those closed minded to the Creator and fail to worship him as such.

Which part of the creation are you using as evidence?

Every part of it including even you yourself in the mix that you can visibly see with your eyes for it is proof there is a Creator. Whether you like to retain that proof and evidence in your finite mind or not it still remains and is evidence of a divine Creator.

OC

[Emissary]

You know, if I didn't know better, I would think I was talking to satan himself as I read this post. I will admit you are a good servant of your father the devil. I haven't read the books you referenced, but have read things on the internet promoting the same kind of tripe contained in those books. I have read articles trying to discredit the Bible by saying things like it has undergone numerous revisions, that it was the creation of people that were using religion to control the masses, attacking the stories in the Old Testament and claiming they did not measure up against science and history. You name it, and I have likely heard the argument. I reject them all. There are just as many books available defending the Bible and that rebut these claims. It all comes down to who do you trust, and I trust the God of the Bible.

Well it is discouraging that my persuasiveness is being percieved as demonic guidance.

*sigh* Until you have read the books, Butero, you are uninformed. At least read the first chapter of Misquoting Jesus. I assure you that we are not agents of the devil but simply your friends who have been where you have been and are trying to help you live a full and productive life.

[billie]

Persuasiveness?

Do you think you're persuading anyone here with anything you're posting?

[Emissary]

Every part of it including even you yourself in the mix that you can visibly see with your eyes for it is proof there is a Creator. Whether you like to retain that proof and evidence in your finite mind or not it still remains and is evidence of a divine Creator.

OC

But how can you know that all of this came from a human-like creator? Don't you see how egotistical and human-centric this claim is?

We don't know where the big bang came from. But creationists take the next egotistical step in assuming that it came from God. There are at least a million other explanations and if we want to be honest we must consider them all. We can't just assume that we know the answer before investigating.

Gotta go tho guys. I appreciated discussing with you and good night. Thanks for input.

[Emissary]

Persuasiveness?

Do you think you're persuading anyone here with anything you're posting?

Well if they didn't feel persuaded (and therefore threatened) by what I was writing, I don't know why they would be claiming that they felt they were speaking to the "devil himself".

[Openly Curious]

Every part of it including even you yourself in the mix that you can visibly see with your eyes for it is proof there is a Creator. Whether you like to retain that proof and evidence in your finite mind or not it still remains and is evidence of a divine Creator.

OC

But how can you know that all of this came from a human-like creator? Don't you see how egotistical and human-centric this claim is?

We don't know where the big bang came from. But creationists take the next egotistical step in assuming that it came from God. There are at least a million other explanations and if we want to be honest we must consider them all. We can't just assume that we know the answer before investigating.

Gotta go tho guys. I appreciated discussing with you and good night. Thanks for input.

yes I do know where the big bang came from it was a lie from the devil. I could read all of the so called million other explanations and I still would know that it is God who is the Creator of this universe in which I am a part of. I never said that every thing came from a "HUMAN" like creator those are your subtle words and a trait of Satan himself I might add that you are exibiting from him and are using in order to persuade away from the truth.

OC