Why are you even here?

[Giaour]

How does this type of stuff edify the Body?

Athiests coming into OUR house and insulting our God and our beliefs.

It's disgusting that they try and persuade Christians AWAY from the truth.

All I can say is "Get thee behind me satan".

[billie]

How does this type of stuff edify the Body?

Athiests coming into OUR house and insulting our God and our beliefs.

It's disgusting that they try and persuade Christians AWAY from the truth.

All I can say is "Get thee behind me satan".

I second that emotion, G.

[Giaour]

You know, I have no problem with unbelievers coming in here to learn more about our beliefs.

But to come in here for the sole purpose of causing strife and discord is abhoring to me.

We are fine, happy, saved from the judgement of God.

We are free from captivity.

It seems it is them who are miserable.

[billie]

You know, I have no problem with unbelievers coming in here to learn more about our beliefs.

But to come in here for the sole purpose of causing strife and discord is abhoring to me.

We are fine, happy, saved from the judgement of God.

We are free from captivity.

It seems it is them who are miserable.

I started a whole thread/rant on that subject.

[Openly Curious]

Persuasiveness?

Do you think you're persuading anyone here with anything you're posting?

Well if they didn't feel persuaded (and therefore threatened) by what I was writing, I don't know why they would be claiming that they felt they were speaking to the "devil himself".

Who said anyone was persuaded or threatened by what you were writing? Still trying to persuade minds by spreading further lies I see. I have already lived life the way you are suggesting for me to live it up again I didn't do to good of a job of it. My life is in God now and there is nothing in which you have at all to persuade me or entice me away from God to back unto it. You only offer death and not life. No thanks not a good trade. I already made the trade of a lifetime when I gave up death and eternal punishment for peace and life everlasting.

OC

[firehill]

Every part of it including even you yourself in the mix that you can visibly see with your eyes for it is proof there is a Creator. Whether you like to retain that proof and evidence in your finite mind or not it still remains and is evidence of a divine Creator.

OC

But how can you know that all of this came from a human-like creator? Don't you see how egotistical and human-centric this claim is?

The Creator is not human-like.

[WayneB]

...since I have become an atheist my life has become vibrantly more meaningful and rich.

Funny thing is that since I accepted Christ as Lord & Savior 16 years ago, my life has become vibrantly more meaningful and rich. Maybe the difference is that I do not restrict my Christianity to the pews but I honestly try to live it 24/7. I express my faith at work, home and even when I play. I have found nothing that comes close to fulfilling me physically and spiritually.

Emissary, by your own words, I changed your classification to unbeliever. Please remember that you are a guest here. We are not tolerant of anyone with an agenda to undermine our ministry so please show proper respect. Feel free to ask any questions but keep in mind that this is a Christian Ministry.

All others: feel free to restrict yourselves to the Inner Court. The Outer Court is for all people, unbelievers alike, who accept our Terms of Service and show the proper respect.

May the Lord Bless all of you richly,

Wayne

Psalm 73

25 Whom have I in heaven but you?

And earth has nothing I desire besides you.

26 My flesh and my heart may fail,

but God is the strength of my heart

and my portion forever.

27 Those who are far from you will perish;

you destroy all who are unfaithful to you.

28 But as for me, it is good to be near God.

I have made the Sovereign LORD my refuge;

I will tell of all your deeds.

[Guest Biblicist]

I am extremely confused.

So many of the Christians here accept the non-believers coming here to chat and debate our beliefs. They welcome the sharpening stone of conversation to hone their beliefs.

Yet here in this forum you say non-believers are spewing drivel, children of satan, trying to persuade us away from the gospel. Someone, the OP, wanted to know why they are here, were you not willing or ready for that answer. Did you really think they were going to say, I came here to learn more about Jesus? Obviously they think they know something we do not and feel it is necessary to share that information with [what they consider] us uneducated, close minded Christians.

If someone really has come here to try to persuade Christians away from their belief, by posting books or information that contradicts God's Word, then it should be edited. Just as it is if someone posts information about a specific denomination. Lets not let them get us riled up by their answers. Remember they believe they are totally justified in their belief. Making rude claims is not going to change their view, only solidify their belief that Christians are mindless, heartless, idiots.

Just my opinion.

In His Mighty Grip,

Bib

[Giaour]

I am extremely confused.

So many of the Christians here accept the non-believers coming here to chat and debate our beliefs. They welcome the sharpening stone of conversation to hone their beliefs.

Yet here in this forum you say non-believers are spewing drivel, children of satan, trying to persuade us away from the gospel. Someone, the OP, wanted to know why they are here, were you not willing or ready for that answer. Did you really think they were going to say, I came here to learn more about Jesus? Obviously they think they know something we do not and feel it is necessary to share that information with [what they consider] us uneducated, close minded Christians.

If someone really has come here to try to persuade Christians away from their belief, by posting books or information that contradicts God's Word, then it should be edited. Just as it is if someone posts information about a specific denomination. Lets not let them get us riled up by their answers. Remember they believe they are totally justified in their belief. Making rude claims is not going to change their view, only solidify their belief that Christians are mindless, heartless, idiots.

Just my opinion.

In His Mighty Grip,

Bib

Lets say that you invited a few friends to a party and some strangers showed up.

You welcome them.

Ask them to stay and enjoy the dinner.

They procede to tell you that the food is aweful and that you are stupid to cook it that way.

They tell you that your house is ugly and your wife is a liar.

You ask them why they even showed up for dinner and they say to persuade you to leave your wife.

So, do you just sit back and say, I respect your opinion, do you want some cake?

I dont think so.

You ask them to leave your home.

[Giaour]

I don't look at all unbelievers as I did these two. Some of them, I carry on civil conversations with. The difference is the way these two came in, and the agenda they are freely admitting to bringing to these forums. There are some that come here to fellowship and learn about Christianity. They are atheists, but they have no anti-God agenda. These people came to turn us away from the faith. They are enemies of the cross of Christ. As far as I am concerned, they are of their father the devil. If that comes across rude to you, I cannot help that. Just as they "believe they are totally justified in their belief," so do I believe I am totally justified in calling them for what they are.