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I have the gift of tongues and I use it in prayer privately and not publicly. So many people who clame to have this gift abuse it in the public church for there 5 minutes of glory. It is a gift so one can do battle in the spiritual realm!

I suppose everyone's experience might be slightly different as we each have a different temperament.

For myself, I speak in tongues only occasionally, in times of private prayer when I am experiencing great distress, or great joy.

Paul said: "I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all" and "forbid not to speak with tongues."

If any denomination teaches against speaking in tongues they are teaching contrary to what Paul said.

If any church has no one in their congregations who speak in tongues, one would have to wonder why.

However, everything must be done in Scriptural order.

I agree :thumbsup:


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I have the gift of tongues and I use it in prayer privately and not publicly. So many people who clame to have this gift abuse it in the public church for there 5 minutes of glory. It is a gift so one can do battle in the spiritual realm!

I suppose everyone's experience might be slightly different as we each have a different temperament.

For myself, I speak in tongues only occasionally, in times of private prayer when I am experiencing great distress, or great joy.

Paul said: "I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all" and "forbid not to speak with tongues."

If any denomination teaches against speaking in tongues they are teaching contrary to what Paul said.

If any church has no one in their congregations who speak in tongues, one would have to wonder why.

However, everything must be done in Scriptural order.

Yeah, it is irritating that a lot of churches (though by no means all churches) seem to go to extremes with it: either completely teaching against it or just letting people go nuts with it.


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Here is a bit of an explanation for you...

Prayer Language is a


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Here is a bit of an explanation for you...

Prayer Language is a


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I suppose it is inevitable that any discussion about receiving the Holy Spirit will include the subject of speaking in tongues, although the two topics can be considered separately.

I occasionally speak in tongues when I feel the Spirit moving me.

I have known some who speak in tongues who still swear and curse with the same mouth.

The insistence by some Pentecostal denominations that speaking in tongues is the essential and infallible evidence of receiving the Holy Spirit, is based on experience and inference, and is not stated in Scripture.

There are quite strict rules in the Bible how tongues should operate in the church, and it is the disregard of these instructions that put a lot of non-pentecostal people off.

Receiving the Holy Spirit is a real experience, and someone who does receive the Spirit will know it, and will express it in some way: it may be speaking in tongues, it may be praising and glorifying God, it may be shouting and dancing, or in some other way. But it will be seemly and it will be orderly.

And the person's life will confirm the experience by expressing the fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5:22-23) and walking in the truth (John 16:13).

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I agree that when you recieve you will know, that it will be as individual as we are and yes it is another gift on a long walk. I was in a pentacostal church that did look down on me for not "talking in tongues" when I was in prayer service. That was not the church for me or the place that I would recieve the Holy Spirit. I moved on and continue to move on in Him. If you are some place that doesn't feel right ask God. His release from that church, though long awaited, was one of the best moments in my walk so far. But I did stay until He said it was time, not in my time.


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Good move, asap :thumbsup:


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Since this experience of recieving the Baptism of the Holy Spirit I had it explained to me by an annointed Pastor that there are indeed 3 baptisms. The baptism of repentance (Christ's blood), water baptism and Holy Spirit. He had scriptural back up but I don't have that available and I am still so new with the Word that it can be hard for me to find things. But having experienced all three I am finding a new depth of His presense in my Christian walk, I did reasize when He gave me that scripture the action phrase was "as your soul prospers". We have to be actively prospering our soul with the Word, prayer, fellowship, acts of charity and all things that He puts on our hearts to do for Him and through Him for His glory.

Well said. You mentioned Christ's blood, water baptism,and the Holy Spirit ... isn't it interesting that those three elements (water, blood, spirit/life) are what it takes to bring about a natural birth, as well as our "new birth".

1John 5:8

And there are three that bear witness in earth,

the Spirit, and the water, and the blood:

and these three agree in one.


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Since this experience of recieving the Baptism of the Holy Spirit I had it explained to me by an annointed Pastor that there are indeed 3 baptisms. The baptism of repentance (Christ's blood), water baptism and Holy Spirit. He had scriptural back up but I don't have that available and I am still so new with the Word that it can be hard for me to find things. But having experienced all three I am finding a new depth of His presense in my Christian walk, I did reasize when He gave me that scripture the action phrase was "as your soul prospers". We have to be actively prospering our soul with the Word, prayer, fellowship, acts of charity and all things that He puts on our hearts to do for Him and through Him for His glory.

Well said. You mentioned Christ's blood, water baptism,and the Holy Spirit ... isn't it interesting that those three elements (water, blood, spirit/life) are what it takes to bring about a natural birth, as well as our "new birth".

1John 5:8

And there are three that bear witness in earth,

the Spirit, and the water, and the blood:

and these three agree in one.

Thanks kenod,

I will write that scripture down and learn the addy, it was one of the ones I was trying to find to back that up.

God Bless,

Amanda


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I like the Holy Spirit. He's a real great guy, he never comes by to visit as often as I would like. He also seems to think I'm a bit of an affront to God or something, I might have mis understood that though. I tend to be out of context when preachers talk. Anyway, does anyone know whether or not the Holy Spirit posseses anyone like like satan does, because I can't understand why he ignores my request that he do so. He's the only one I really think is worth keeping in charge of things in this world, Because he's part of God's tinity, if you must know. I'm not so good at being a normal person so I could really use this sort of thing from him. I'm also a poor example of God's forgiveness, at least I feel like one. If the Holy Spirit took control though then I'd be straightened up.

I really do like the thing, he is a great guy. I'm very sorry me and him don't quite get along, the fault's all mine I suppose. He has given me some of those gifts before though.


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I don't think the Holy Spirit posesses people in the same way a demon does. With the Holy Spirit it's a relationship...with demons it's a complete, involuntary (well, usually involuntary...sometimes people seek it out without realizing what it would mean) takeover. The Spirit guides us, but does not force us. We retain our freewill when the Spirit is in us, but when we do not listen to Him we are foolish (still...we mess up sometimes).

You are not the first (and nor will you be the last) to struggle with doing good in your walk...Paul struggled at times too..

"We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do

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