Marnie Posted January 3, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2007 Toyota Motor Corp. is developing a fail-safe system for cars that detects drunken drivers and automatically shuts the vehicle down if sensors pick up signs of excessive alcohol consumption, a news report said Wednesday. Cars fitted with the detection system will not start if sweat sensors in the driving wheel detect high levels of alcohol in the driver's bloodstream, according to a report carried by the mass-circulation daily, Asahi Shimbun. The system could also kick in if the sensors detect abnormal steering, or if a special camera shows that the driver's pupils are not in focus. The car is then slowed to a halt, the report said. The world's No. 2 automaker hopes to fit cars with the system by the end of 2009, according to the report. Calls to Toyota's headquarters in Nagoya rang unanswered on Wednesday, a public holiday. Nissan Motor Co., another Japanese car manufacturer, has already been experimenting with breathalyzer-like devices that could detect if a driver was drunken. Similar technologies, such as alcohol ignition interlocks, are in use in the U.S. and elsewhere. Concerns over drunken driving have surged in Japan following a series of alcohol-related accidents last year. In August, a drunken driver collided with another vehicle carrying a family of five, plunging them off a bridge and killing three children. The incident prompted stepped-up roadside spot checks by police, who also plan to stiffen penalties for drunken driving. **So, does this story bother anybody else??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted January 3, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.92 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I think the car may shut down for people who are falling asleep at the wheel as well. I'm not sure what roads in Japan are like, but I'm trying to picture the affects of a car in the middle of the beltway (4-lane highway - 55+mph crowded driving) suddenly shutting down. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salos Posted January 3, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 160 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/04/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/26/1950 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Yeah, you would have to work the kinks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgesbluegirl Posted January 3, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,234 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/17/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1987 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I mean if you don't like the system...don't buy the car. I think it's a really interesting idea. If they can figure out about highway driving etc. then this could do really good things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnie Posted January 3, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 I just dont think your car should be telling you what you can and can't do and it should never, ever talk to you. I mean, I had my mechanic disconnect all the bells and whistles and buzzing sounds. The more you complicate the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain. Plumbing 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted January 4, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 8,601 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/16/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/04/1973 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I just dont think your car should be telling you what you can and can't do and it should never, ever talk to you. I mean, I had my mechanic disconnect all the bells and whistles and buzzing sounds. The more you complicate the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain. Plumbing 101. I remember when I was a teen my parents bought a used 1985 Olds Regency we had no idea it was a talking car! Dad left the keys in the car (Mom was still in there) and when he got out, we heard "The keys are in the ignition." We were shocked!!! It would tell you "the headlights are on" and other things. Dad let our pastor drive it one day and then his wife drove. Brother Andrews was laughing and said "if this thing says 'Brenda, you're speeding, please pull over' then I'm jumping out!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckthesystem Posted January 4, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,706 Topics Per Day: 0.26 Content Count: 3,386 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/12/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/10/1955 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I just dont think your car should be telling you what you can and can't do and it should never, ever talk to you. I mean, I had my mechanic disconnect all the bells and whistles and buzzing sounds. The more you complicate the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain. Plumbing 101. I remember when I was a teen my parents bought a used 1985 Olds Regency we had no idea it was a talking car! Dad left the keys in the car (Mom was still in there) and when he got out, we heard "The keys are in the ignition." We were shocked!!! It would tell you "the headlights are on" and other things. Dad let our pastor drive it one day and then his wife drove. Brother Andrews was laughing and said "if this thing says 'Brenda, you're speeding, please pull over' then I'm jumping out!" Wonderful idea for car thieves. Here's the scenario: You go to a petrol station, put petrol in your car, leave the keys in the ignition - as people often do in this situation - and go into the "shop" (or whatever) to pay for the petrol. I am an opportunist thief and am walking past the car when I hear it say "the keys are in the ignition", I get in and take off quicker than you can do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckthesystem Posted January 4, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,706 Topics Per Day: 0.26 Content Count: 3,386 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/12/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/10/1955 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I just dont think your car should be telling you what you can and can't do and it should never, ever talk to you. I mean, I had my mechanic disconnect all the bells and whistles and buzzing sounds. The more you complicate the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain. Plumbing 101. This SURE DOES bother me. I think I'll stick to my old Holden and never get one of these "control-freak cars". There is something "creepy" about being dictated to and restrained by a mechanical device that is designed primarily to be controlled by you. You said you had the "bells and whistles" disconnected. This would be my first thought, but I have read that a lot of mechanics won't do this because if they do, it invalidates any motor insurance you have. If you are considering buying a new car, I guess you should go through the "fine print" of the "owner's manual" with a "fine toothed comb". Often there is something like "this information may be available to the following:...........(including) "law enforcement officers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnie Posted January 4, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 I just dont think your car should be telling you what you can and can't do and it should never, ever talk to you. I mean, I had my mechanic disconnect all the bells and whistles and buzzing sounds. The more you complicate the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain. Plumbing 101. This SURE DOES bother me. I think I'll stick to my old Holden and never get one of these "control-freak cars". There is something "creepy" about being dictated to and restrained by a mechanical device that is designed primarily to be controlled by you. You said you had the "bells and whistles" disconnected. This would be my first thought, but I have read that a lot of mechanics won't do this because if they do, it invalidates any motor insurance you have. If you are considering buying a new car, I guess you should go through the "fine print" of the "owner's manual" with a "fine toothed comb". Often there is something like "this information may be available to the following:...........(including) "law enforcement officers). This is true, although it doesn't affect the liability part of the policy. I should have said he turned off the optional dings and buzzers. I, myself, found the little noise makers under the dash and pulled the plug on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lnj Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Toyota Motor Corp. is developing a fail-safe system for cars that detects drunken drivers and automatically shuts the vehicle down if sensors pick up signs of excessive alcohol consumption, a news report said Wednesday. Cars fitted with the detection system will not start if sweat sensors in the driving wheel detect high levels of alcohol in the driver's bloodstream, according to a report carried by the mass-circulation daily, Asahi Shimbun. The system could also kick in if the sensors detect abnormal steering, or if a special camera shows that the driver's pupils are not in focus. The car is then slowed to a halt, the report said. The world's No. 2 automaker hopes to fit cars with the system by the end of 2009, according to the report. Calls to Toyota's headquarters in Nagoya rang unanswered on Wednesday, a public holiday. Nissan Motor Co., another Japanese car manufacturer, has already been experimenting with breathalyzer-like devices that could detect if a driver was drunken. Similar technologies, such as alcohol ignition interlocks, are in use in the U.S. and elsewhere. Concerns over drunken driving have surged in Japan following a series of alcohol-related accidents last year. In August, a drunken driver collided with another vehicle carrying a family of five, plunging them off a bridge and killing three children. The incident prompted stepped-up roadside spot checks by police, who also plan to stiffen penalties for drunken driving. **So, does this story bother anybody else??? It sounds dangerous to say the least. Australia at the moment is going through a deadly wave of drink driving with nearly every night on the National news someone or 2 or 3 is killed from excessive speed"dangerous driving usually due to alcohol. The ages of many of the drivers are between 16 to 25. That's young guys' in their prime. It has to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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