Worthy News: CA: Gov. to seek insurance for all children - LA Times

[George]

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger will propose that all Californian children, including those in the state illegally, be guaranteed medical insurance as part of the health-care overhaul he intends to unveil next week, according to officials familiar with the plan.

http://www.worthynews.com/news/latimes-com...home-headlines/

[kat8585]

This is BULL! I'm glad I don't live in Ca. He is looking to get himself unelected, like the Republicans did, and for the same reason (at least that was part of the reason, I believe). I thought he had more sense than this.

[forrestkc]

It's quite amazing that there would be Christians actually arguing that providing medical coverage for all children is a bad thing. Which part of Matthew 25: 31-46, do you not get?

[kat8585]

It's quite amazing that there would be Christians actually arguing that providing medical coverage for all children is a bad thing. Which part of Matthew 25: 31-46, do you not get?

You need to take a look at this, which I posted elsewhere in this forum:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5871651411393887069

[forrestkc]

It's quite amazing that there would be Christians actually arguing that providing medical coverage for all children is a bad thing. Which part of Matthew 25: 31-46, do you not get?

You need to take a look at this, which I posted elsewhere in this forum:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5871651411393887069

Conservation is of great interest to me. I fish, camp, backpack, and canoe every chance I get. I, along with the vast majority of conservation organizations, am fully aware of the environmental threat of rapid population growth and illegal imigration.

The problem is that while I think we ought to be doing a far better job of curbing illegal immigration, it would be morally wrong to deny medical coverage the children of illegal immigrants while they are here. This is a moral issue. Moreover, its estimated according the the article to cost California about 400 million a year to cover all of its uninsured children (legal or not). California is the 5the largest economy on earth, to a state and economy that large, its a small price to pay.

[kat8585]

It's quite amazing that there would be Christians actually arguing that providing medical coverage for all children is a bad thing. Which part of Matthew 25: 31-46, do you not get?

You need to take a look at this, which I posted elsewhere in this forum:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5871651411393887069

Conservation is of great interest to me. I fish, camp, backpack, and canoe every chance I get. I, along with the vast majority of conservation organizations, am fully aware of the environmental threat of rapid population growth and illegal imigration.

The problem is that while I think we ought to be doing a far better job of curbing illegal immigration, it would be morally wrong to deny medical coverage the children of illegal immigrants while they are here. This is a moral issue. Moreover, its estimated according the the article to cost California about 400 million a year to cover all of its uninsured children (legal or not). California is the 5the largest economy on earth, to a state and economy that large, its a small price to pay.

Did you even watch the video? It's a whole lot more than conservation.

Besides, if they know they will get free everything, they will come in even more droves, but if they know they will get nothing, because they deserve nothing, maybe we won't be inundated with so many.

[forrestkc]

Besides, if they know they will get free everything, they will come in even more droves, but if they know they will get nothing, because they deserve nothing, maybe we won't be inundated with so many.

Gosh, I thought they came here to work.... Anyway, that is not the point. The point is that is wrong to not provide medical care to children. It does not matter what country they were born in. We don't tell a 5 year old child in this country: "Well since you

[kat8585]

I still don't think you watched the video.

The point is, they shouldn't be here, and should be deported. Why should they get everything free, at the cost of law-abiding citizens because they jump to the front of the line ahead of the ones who are doing it legally, and have it condoned? What an insult and an injustice to those who are waiting for years! And most don't even pay taxes, and they send a ton of the money to Mexico, so it doesn't even benefit our economy!

Maybe you don't mind having more and more of your tax dollars used for something that is illegal, thereby encouraging more of the same, but I resent it, bigtime.

[forrestkc]

I still don't think you watched the video.

The point is, they shouldn't be here, and should be deported. Why should they get everything free, at the cost of law-abiding citizens because they jump to the front of the line ahead of the ones who are doing it legally, and have it condoned? What an insult and an injustice to those who are waiting for years! And most don't even pay taxes, and they send a ton of the money to Mexico, so it doesn't even benefit our economy!

Maybe you don't mind having more and more of your tax dollars used for something that is illegal, thereby encouraging more of the same, but I resent it, bigtime.

No I did not watch the video, as the Nazis proved, anyone can put out propaganda that makes any claim. There are videos out there that claim 9/11 was a government conspiracy (replete of course with all kinds of "facts and experts"). I would rather actually read up on the issue myself and that is what I have already done.

The point is not whether they should be here or not. They should not be here. Of course, if you want to guarantee a recession, then just up and deport all that labor over night. Just the same, we are not talking about providing healthcare to adults who illegally come here. We are talking about providing healthcare to children whose parents illegally came here. It would be immoral not to do so. A child on American soil is a child on American soil regardless of their nationality. I don't recall in the Gospels where Jesus required proper documentation of citizenship before healing anyone.

I am sorry that you resent the possibility of your tax dollars being used to provide health care to children, but for Arnold and most people it is simply a moral issue and as I pointed out earlier, for 400 million a year at the total cost of doing so, its drop in the bucket in a state like California anyway.

[kat8585]

I promise you, forrest, that if you start watching the video, it will be very interesting. It's just like reading, and does provide facts. I'm sorry. You are missing out.

By the way, do you think illegals should get Social Security?

Edited January 7, 2007 by kat8585