50000 People Like Me Can Bring Jesus Back To The Earth !

[HAZARD]

This hastening idea comes from here:

2 Peter 3: 10-13

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

We can only hasten the day of the Lord by being obedient to His call to preach the message of Jesus Christ to the entire world, and conducting ourselves in the likeness of Jesus Christ. EVERYONE doing His will, not our own, and not in mass mailings.

Yes, and only the Father knows when the Lord Jesus Christ will be sent back by Him. Scripture shows that even Jesus does not know when this time will be?

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven,neither the Son, but the Father" (Mark 13:32).

[Candi770]

That's laughable!!

[HAZARD]

That's laughable!!

What's laughable?

Haz.

[RustyAngeL]

The second coming and when it happens is God's business, not ours.

I was going to say the same thing. The time that Jesus comes back is known only to God and we have nothing to do with it.

[Zceiv]

The second coming and when it happens is God's business, not ours.

I was going to say the same thing. The time that Jesus comes back is known only to God and we have nothing to do with it.

but dont forget were commanded to watch

[maguschris]

This hastening idea comes from here:

2 Peter 3: 10-13

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

We can only hasten the day of the Lord by being obedient to His call to preach the message of Jesus Christ to the entire world, and conducting ourselves in the likeness of Jesus Christ. EVERYONE doing His will, not our own, and not in mass mailings.

Yes, and only the Father knows when the Lord Jesus Christ will be sent back by Him. Scripture shows that even Jesus does not know when this time will be?

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven,neither the Son, but the Father" (Mark 13:32).

Whoa wait a second. Hazard in the christian belief Jesus is God in the flesh, so how could God not know when the end is to come. thos two statements are mutually exclusive "god is omniscient" and "God doesn't know when the end is".

If you consider Jesus to be a separate entity than God, then you are POLYtheistic, not MONOtheistic. remember the commandment to worship no other Gods but him.

Here is a webpage that lists many verses proving, according to christianity, that Jesus IS god http://www.carm.org/doctrine/isJesusGod.htm

therefore, it is impossible for Jesus to not know something that God does since they are one in the same, making that and mark 13:32 mututally exclusive.

Can you please explain this?

Edited January 15, 2007 by maguschris

[7thseal]

I am trying to reach 100000 people with the gospel of Jesus Christ.I already have reached 50000 people,I guess.Now this is the final thing associated with the return of Lord Jesus Christ is this-" And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Great work bhakthi, the return of the Lord is in his hands not ours but when he returns and finds us doing what he has commanded of us then great is our rewards. The most blessed words that I desire to hear from the Lord...."well done my just and faithful servant".

[Floatingaxe]

This hastening idea comes from here:

2 Peter 3: 10-13

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

We can only hasten the day of the Lord by being obedient to His call to preach the message of Jesus Christ to the entire world, and conducting ourselves in the likeness of Jesus Christ. EVERYONE doing His will, not our own, and not in mass mailings.

Yes, and only the Father knows when the Lord Jesus Christ will be sent back by Him. Scripture shows that even Jesus does not know when this time will be?

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven,neither the Son, but the Father" (Mark 13:32).

Whoa wait a second. Hazard in the christian belief Jesus is God in the flesh, so how could God not know when the end is to come. thos two statements are mutually exclusive "god is omniscient" and "God doesn't know when the end is".

If you consider Jesus to be a separate entity than God, then you are POLYtheistic, not MONOtheistic. remember the commandment to worship no other Gods but him.

Here is a webpage that lists many verses proving, according to christianity, that Jesus IS god http://www.carm.org/doctrine/isJesusGod.htm

therefore, it is impossible for Jesus to not know something that God does since they are one in the same, making that and mark 13:32 mututally exclusive.

Can you please explain this?

It is plainly said in Mark 13:32...

However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.

Jesus takes the submissive, Sonship role in this instance. God the Father is the Godhead and He will give the command for Jesus to come and fetch His Bride. There are certain aspects of each of the three persons of the Godhead that are their very own. God knowing the day and the hour is His domain, and the Others allow Him that priviledge.

[HAZARD]

This hastening idea comes from here:

2 Peter 3: 10-13

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

We can only hasten the day of the Lord by being obedient to His call to preach the message of Jesus Christ to the entire world, and conducting ourselves in the likeness of Jesus Christ. EVERYONE doing His will, not our own, and not in mass mailings.

Yes, and only the Father knows when the Lord Jesus Christ will be sent back by Him. Scripture shows that even Jesus does not know when this time will be?

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven,neither the Son, but the Father" (Mark 13:32).

Whoa wait a second. Hazard in the christian belief Jesus is God in the flesh, so how could God not know when the end is to come. thos two statements are mutually exclusive "god is omniscient" and "God doesn't know when the end is".

If you consider Jesus to be a separate entity than God, then you are POLYtheistic, not MONOtheistic. remember the commandment to worship no other Gods but him.

Here is a webpage that lists many verses proving, according to christianity, that Jesus IS god http://www.carm.org/doctrine/isJesusGod.htm

therefore, it is impossible for Jesus to not know something that God does since they are one in the same, making that and mark 13:32 mututally exclusive.

Can you please explain this?

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Sure can. If you want to take the time and go through the Scriptures provided below, you will see that Jesus who was the Word and was with God "In the beginning," is a separate divine being, who "thought it not robbery to be equal with God" (Phill. 2:6; and John 5:18) because He was a God being with the Father, "In the beginning" (John 1:1).

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (John 1:1).

The same was in the beginning with God (John 1:2). All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made (John 1;3

In John 1:14 we read that the Word, who was with God became flesh and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory as of the only begotten of the father), full of grace and truth.

Jesus Christ existed in His Spirit body throughout all eternity past, as a member of the Diety, or Godhead, as the Word, untill He divested Himself of His Spirit body and became a man. As God He has always existed. But, as a man, in taking human form, flesh and blood, He had a beginning.

Scripture, show that Jesus Christ was one of the three divine persons of the Deity and that as God he had no beginning.

Mic. 5:2 states He existed from all eternity.

John states of Him as existing in the very beginning with the Father (John 1;1-5).

Jesus Himself said He was before Abraham, and before the World was created (John 8:58; 17:5, 24).

Paul states Christ as existing before all things and as the creator and upholder of all things (Col. 1:15-18; Heb. 1:1-3, 8; 2:10). God the Father created all things by Jesus (Eph. 3:9).

Divine names are ascribed to Him.

These divine names and titles proves that He is by nature divine and a member of the Godhead.

He is called God and Immanuel in (Matt. 1:23; John 1:1; 20:28 and Acts 20:28).

Christ the Lord (Luke 2:26); The Son of God (Matt. 4:3; 14:33; Luke 22:70; John 1:34; Rom. 1:4). He is called "MY SON" by the Father in (Matt. 3:17); The only begotten Son (John 1:18; 3:16-18; 1 John 4:9).

He is called the First and the Last. Alpha and Omega, The beginning and Ending (Rev. 22:12, 13, 16). The Lord (Acts9:17); The Son of the Highest (Luke 1:32; Mark 14:61).

The Holy Child Jesus (Acts 4:30); King of Kings and Lord of Lords (Rev. 19:16); Lord and Savious (2 Peter 3:2); and The Word Of God (Rev. 19:13), and many more such titles show He is a member of the Divine Godhead.

In Phil. 2:5-11 Paul speaks of Christ being in God's form and that He laid aside this form and limited His attributes and powers as God to become a man. These powers were given back to Him when He was exalted to the highest place with God, (Coll. 3:1; Mark 16:19), after His lowest humiliation and limitation before God-even to do nothing, say nothing, be nothing and depend entirely upon God the Father for needed grace for body, soul, and spirit, and make a sucess of the work the Father sent Him into the world to do (Phil 2:9-11; Eph. 1:21-23; Col. 1:15-24; 1 Pet. 3:22). We know He did not keep His powers and position whilst a man, else He could not have been exalted back to it.

If He had not laid aside all His Glory and power He could not have had it restored to Him as stated in John 17:5. If He had retained all His riches while on Earth He could not have become poor for our sakes as taught in 2 Cor. 8:9. If He had kept His divine form He could not have taken on human form as taught by Phil. 2:5-11.

His incarnation proves He was limited as a man and grew to manhood as we all do, and He developed normally as any other human child. All the traditional theories of Him making toy birds and animals of mud and breathing life into them so they became real creatures and ran and flew away, and the many other miraculous powers He allegedly had from birth are mere theories and traditions made up by suspicious pagans to make Him equal with their pagan gods. He was a normal man as we are, and He did no miraculous works untill He was anointed fully by the Holy Spirit (Matt. 3:16-17; John 2:11).

After Jesus was annointed by the Holy Spirit to the full, He then posessed all the gifts and Graces of the Holy Spirit to the full, and He demonstrated what being like God among men really is like and He encouraged one and all who aspire to this exalted position, of sons of God with Power (John 3:34; Acts 10:38).

He laid aside His natural and divine attributes, and their use, and became a perfect example of yieldedness to God and His Spirit to overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil (Heb. 10:5-9; Acts 10:38).

Regarding His Humanity. Human names were ascribed to Him. Rabboni (John 20:16), Jesus (Matt. 1:21), Son of Abraham and David (Matt. 1:1), Seed and Offspring of David(Rom. 1:3; Rev. 5:5; 22:16). The second man and the Last Adam (1 Cor. 15:45-47). The King of the Jews (Matt. 2:2).

Jesus Christ existed in His Spirit body throughout all eternity past, untill He divested Himself of His Spirit body and became a man. As God He has always existed. But, as a man, in taking human form, flesh and blood, He had a beginning.

Scripture, show that Jesus Christ was one of the three divine persons of the Deity and that as God he had no beginning.

Mic. 5:2 states He existed from all eternity.

John states of Him as existing in the very beginning with the Father (John 1;1-5).

Jesus Himself said He was before Abraham, and before the World was created (John 8:58; 17:5, 24).

Paul states Christ as existing before all things and as the creator and upholder of all things (Col. 1:15-18; Heb. 1:1-3, 8; 2:10). God the Father created all things by Jesus (Eph. 3:9).

Divine names are ascribed to Him.

These divine names and titles proves that He is by nature divine and a member of the Godhead.

He is called God and Immanuel in (Matt. 1:23; John 1:1; 20:28 and Acts 20:28).

Christ the Lord (Luke 2:26); The Son of God (Matt. 4:3; 14:33; Luke 22:70; John 1:34; Rom. 1:4). He is called "MY SON" by the Father in (Matt. 3:17); The only begotten Son (John 1:18; 3:16-18; 1 John 4:9).

He is called the First and the Last. Alpha and Omega, The beginning and Ending (Rev. 22:12, 13, 16). The Lord (Acts9:17); The Son of the Highest (Luke 1:32; Mark 14:61).

The Holy Child Jesus (Acts 4:30); King of Kings and Lord of Lords (Rev. 19:16); Lord and Savious (2 Peter 3:2); and The Word Of God (Rev. 19:13), and many more such titles show He is a member of the Divine Godhead.

After Jesus was annointed by the Holy Spirit to the full, He then posessed all the gifts and Graces of the Holy Spirit to the full, and He demonstrated what being like God among men really is like and He encouraged one and all who aspire to this exalted position, of sons of God with Power (John 3:34; Acts 10:38).

He laid aside His natural and divine attributes, and their use, and became a perfect example of yieldedness to God and His Spirit to overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil (Heb. 10:5-9; Acts 10:38).

Regarding His Humanity. Human names were ascribed to Him. Rabboni (John 20:16), Jesus (Matt. 1:21), Son of Abraham and David (Matt. 1:1), Seed and Offspring of David(Rom. 1:3; Rev. 5:5; 22:16). The second man and the Last Adam (1 Cor. 15:45-47). The King of the Jews (Matt. 2:2).

He was called a "BABE," a "CHILD," and a "MAN" (Luke 2:16; Isa. 9:6; Acts 17:31; 1 Tim. 2L4-5; Rom. 5:12-21; John 8:40; Acts 2:22; 1 Cor. 15:21, 45-47).

It was prophecied that He would be born of a human mother (Gen. 3:15; Isa. 7:14; 9:6-7; 11:1; 53:1-12; Ps. 22).

And He had flesh and blood like all other men (John 1:14; Heb. 2:14-15; 1 John 4:1-6; Luke 24:39; John 19:34).

Jesus Christ, in His glorified flesh and bone body, now sits beside the Father in Heaven (Luke 24:39; John 20:27; Mark 16:19; Luke 22:69), for the Father, who is and did remain a Spirit being, is Spirit and has a Spirit body, and must be worshiped in Spirit and truth (John 4:24).

He was called a "BABE," a "CHILD," and a "MAN" (Luke 2:16; Isa. 9:6; Acts 17:31; 1 Tim. 2L4-5; Rom. 5:12-21; John 8:40; Acts 2:22; 1 Cor. 15:21, 45-47).

It was prophecied that He would be born of a human mother (Gen. 3:15; Isa. 7:14; 9:6-7; 11:1; 53:1-12; Ps. 22).

And He had flesh and blood like all other men (John 1:14; Heb. 2:14-15; 1 John 4:1-6; Luke 24:39; John 19:34).

Jesus Christ, in His glorified flesh and bone body, as the frist of the first fruits, now sits beside the Father in Heaven (Luke 24:39; John 20:27; Mark 16:19; Luke 22:69), for the Father, who is and did remain a Spirit being, is Spirit and has a Spirit body, and must be worshiped in Spirit and truth (John 4:24).

Now because Jesus is flesh and bone, though glorified, and the Father, who never became flesh, but remained in Heaven and ran the universe whilst Jesus was on Earth and died for us, is Spirit, and retained His Spirit body, and Jesus now sits beside the Father, at His right hand in Heaven, the two cannot possibly be one in body, as fundamental Christianity teaches, but only one in unity!

Jesus now SITS BESIDE THE FATHER IN HEAVEN, ON A THRONE, and is a separate Divine being, as He always was, only now He has a Glorified flesh and bone body, and He awaits on His Fathers good time, which He Himself states He does not know when the time will be, to return to this Earth.

As He Himself said: ("But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father" (Mark 13:32). He addresses Himself as "the Son" in this passage. Only the Father Knows the time.

Edited January 15, 2007 by HAZARD

[Akabu]

This seems to me to be something along the lines of standing on a street corner and holding up a sign that says "Jesus is Lord". Sure, people see it, but it is not a mesage to them. It is not recieved in the manner it is intended. It cannot be. it is impersonal, un-connected, and tells nothing about Christ and His love or His sacrifice.

You could have 10 Billion hits on your web page, but the number means nothing. Have you reached the people in the steppes of Mongolia? How about the tribes of the Amazon jungle?

God will send Jesus back when HE is ready, not when you say it is time. No amount of conciete on your part will bring Jesus back 1 second faster than the Father wants.