Behind the Obama Madrassa Hoax

[forrestkc]

As for "hate mongering," really? You say that and just go, "Oh it's so obvious that you should see it, if not, then you're just blind and can't listen to any logic." Of course, no logic is offered on this and therefore we are at a loss as to what is supposedly so obvious. It's a "poor man's argument," someone that simply lacks the necessary skills to form the logical analysis needed to show why the comparison cannot be made.

Is Pedophilia a sexual perversion that involves a victim? Yes, it is. Is homosexuality a sexual perversion that involves a victim? It actually involves two victims, even if they do not see it that way.

Both are the same perversion.

You are equating two adults entering into a concensual relationship with an adult raping a child or even a baby. Morally the two are not the same.

[Zceiv]

As for "hate mongering," really? You say that and just go, "Oh it's so obvious that you should see it, if not, then you're just blind and can't listen to any logic." Of course, no logic is offered on this and therefore we are at a loss as to what is supposedly so obvious. It's a "poor man's argument," someone that simply lacks the necessary skills to form the logical analysis needed to show why the comparison cannot be made.

Is Pedophilia a sexual perversion that involves a victim? Yes, it is. Is homosexuality a sexual perversion that involves a victim? It actually involves two victims, even if they do not see it that way.

Both are the same perversion.

You are equating two adults entering into a concensual relationship with an adult raping a child or even a baby. Morally the two are not the same.

And you are saying Murder, adulty, stealing is a sin. But rationolizing homosexuality

[apothanein kerdos]

As for "hate mongering," really? You say that and just go, "Oh it's so obvious that you should see it, if not, then you're just blind and can't listen to any logic." Of course, no logic is offered on this and therefore we are at a loss as to what is supposedly so obvious. It's a "poor man's argument," someone that simply lacks the necessary skills to form the logical analysis needed to show why the comparison cannot be made.

Is Pedophilia a sexual perversion that involves a victim? Yes, it is. Is homosexuality a sexual perversion that involves a victim? It actually involves two victims, even if they do not see it that way.

Both are the same perversion.

You are equating two adults entering into a concensual relationship with an adult raping a child or even a baby. Morally the two are not the same.

Both are sin. Both pervert what sex is. Both have victims. Both violate the image of God. How are they not the same? Consent has nothing to do with it - that is a false moral evaluator. I can consent to having multiple men have sex with me, but it still makes this a highly immoral activity. Certain boys "consent" to have sex with older men (when they are 13, 14, or 15)...but it is still immoral. You are using a secular method to judge morality, not a Christian one.

[ted]

So, about that Obama thing....

t.

[forrestkc]

So, about that Obama thing....

t.

Really.

I can't see the point of arguing this one any further. I mean, obviously there is an ideological divide here.

[ted]

So, has anyone figured out yet for sure whether this stuff did come from the Clinton camp or not?

t.

[Guest shiloh357]

Which is my point Shiloh. There is a litany of sins that scripture says would prevent an individual from inheriting the kingdom of Heaven. You cant pick and choose the ones that bother you the most. If we look at the list, everyone from gays to those who are greedy, to those who are materialistic, to those who ever turn their backs on those in need, to those who are simply unjust. Who over the age of 5 would that net not catch?

The fact is, you cant just pick and choose, if Gays are excluded then we all will be.

See, we are not talking about ALL sins, right now. This is not a discussion about sin, but about a particular one, which YOU say a person can practice, enjoy and still get into heaven.

I would say that those who live consistent, habitual sin and enjoy such sin, have a real problem where the authenticity of their salvation is concerned. I am not sweeping anything under the rug, but we are not talking about materialism.

Furthermore, you seem to think that Homosexuality should just get a pass, since there are other sins in the church, and that is not right either.

You are just trying rationalize, and it is futile. It is like when we were discussing evolution. You want to believe things on your terms. The Bible says what it says, but you prefer to put a different gloss on homosexuality, and completely ignore what the Bible says.