Is Eternal Life Available to All?

[His son]

You folks are doing a great job of exposing the false doctrines. And I want to encourage you that you are not wasting your time. As long as you keep him busy here he can't use that time elsewhere although he is spreading this same tripe on other boards, and mostly with the same results.

[Guest LadyC]

His Son, THANK YOU! and here i was wondering why the admins allowed him to stick around... him and a few others like him. you just reminded me that God has everything in His hands... and maybe that is why shaman is here.

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings My Brothers & Sisters in Christ,

I think it is time for all to leave this thread. The true colors have been shown and now everyone knows what to watch for. Let's move on to something more edifying and honoring to Christ.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Guest shadow2b]

-GOOD ADVICE DAD THANK YOU I'M A LEAVIN TOWN CAN'T STAND NO MORE OF THIS CLOWN-----

- :x: :x: :x:

[Guest shiloh357]

Shaman,

I am a hugh fan of Carlos Santana and that is the name of the album I play most often, it was either that or his album "supernatural."

Eric just hates Methodist and some other type (I forgot and it is not worth looking up) of ministers, probably all ministers.

Shiloh nor Calamity understand the spiritual or divine self, although they profess to have divinity residing within them. Neither do they understand that God breathed Spirit into their nosrils, making them flesh, soul, and spirit. So, they can't know what a godly or divine love is as they have demonstrated.

Oh, your a fan of Carlos Santana? Well, old Santana made no secret that his album supernatural was dedictated to none other than Satan himself. Santana is quite public about his participation in the occult.

Yet, you say we are in need of spiritual help? What bunch of hogwash.

Calamity and I do understand. The concept of a divine self is wrapped up in the New Age/far Eastern religions. Many who practice such things, believe that every person as a spark of divinity/or divine spirit. Having the divine Son of God reside within my heart in the person of the Holy Spirit is a far cry from having a divine self. There is nothing about me that is divine. I have let my Heavenly Father down so many times, I have lost count. I never cease to be amazed that he would want anything to do with me. If there is anything good in me, it because Jesus put it there.

So, they can't know what a godly or divine love is as they have demonstrated.

I know what Godly, Divine love is because I read about it in Scripture. I read about what Jesus did for me on the cross. Godly love was immeasurably granted to me when I made Jesus my saviour. By the way, it is that Godly love working in me daily, that prevents me from listening to the occultic garbage with which you fill your mind.

[Guest shadow2b]

-There is nothing about me that is divine. I have let my Heavenly Father down so many times, I have lost count. I never cease to be amazed that he would want anything to do with me. If there is anything good in me, it because Jesus put it there.

I know what Godly, Divine love is because I read about it in Scripture. I read about what Jesus did for me on the cross. Godly love was immeasurably granted to me when I made Jesus my saviour. By the way, it is that Godly love working in me daily, that prevents me from listening to the occultic garbage with which you fill your mind

very well stated & thank you for being so eloquent

[Guest Cynthia828]

Attempting to stick to the original question...

The answer to this IS found very clearly in the Word. Romans 2

Rom 2:4-3:1

5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who "will render to each one according to his deeds": 7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; 8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness--indignation and wrath, 9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; 10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13(for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.

17 Indeed you are called a Jew, and rest on the law, and make your boast in God, 18 and know His will, and approve the things that are excellent, being instructed out of the law, 19 and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness, 20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law. 21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal? 22 You who say, "Do not commit adultery," do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law? 24 For "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you," as it is written.

25 For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. 26 Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision? 27 And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law? 28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

NKJV

Quoting froom the Evidence Bible....

Q. "Will people who have never heard the gospel all go to hell because they haven't heard about Jesus Christ?"

A. No one will go to hell because they haven't heard of Jesus Christ. The heathen will go to hell for murder, rape, adultery, lust, theft, lying, etc. Sin is not FAILING TO HEAR THE GOSPEL. Rather, sin is the transgression of the law. (1 John 3:4.)

Oswald Chambers said "Conscience is the internal perception of God's moral law."

God has given light to every man. The word con-science means with knowledge. The conscience is the headline warning of sin; the Scriptures give the fine print. No man can say he doesn't know that it's wrong to murder or commit adultery. That knowledge (according to Romans 2 above) is written in bold print ON HIS HEART. However, in the Scriptures we see the true nature of sin; that God requires truth even in the inward parts (Psalm 51:6). The find print reveals that lust is adultery of the heart, hatred is murder of the heart, etc.

The bottom line is every human race has a list of laws that the heart of man knows is good. The Word says that God has written those laws on our hearts, including those who live in the remotest parts of the world. "For those without law shall also perish without law; and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; For NOT the HEARERS of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified!!! (Emphasis mine).

[His son]

You know everyone.

Eternal life is true for everyone. The difference is where we will spend it. We call it eternal life because we see life as being with Jesus. But we do have to understand that The Bible teaches that those who refuse to repent are going to spend the rest of eternity with worms that never die, unquenchable fire, never ending burnings just to name a few. How sad it is that, as we have seen here, some even when they are presented with The Truth just harden there hearts in their conceit, and continue on down that broad way the leads them to hell.

[Guest LadyC]

You know everyone.

Eternal life is true for everyone. The difference is where we will spend it. We call it eternal life because we see life as being with Jesus. But we do have to understand that The Bible teaches that those who refuse to repent are going to spend the rest of eternity with worms that never die, unquenchable fire, never ending burnings just to name a few. How sad it is that, as we have seen here, some even when they are presented with The Truth just harden there hearts in their conceit, and continue on down that broad way the leads them to hell.

absolutely. i made a similar point earlier in this thread, but i think it got overlooked.

[OneAccord]

Thank you for your post Cynthia828, that's pretty much where I stand on this one too. Also Romans 1:20.