150,000 People are Dying Every Day...

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Mate, we don't feed the poor, disciple, or do any of these other things as a means for reaching a goal - we do them because they are good in and of themselves.

Actually, shouldn't we do these things because we love?

(1 Cor. 13)

If we love Him we will keep His commandments and if we truly love our neighbor we dont want to see them go to Hell...Do we???

Loving God is the first command. Loving your neighbor is the second.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

Mate, we don't feed the poor, disciple, or do any of these other things as a means for reaching a goal - we do them because they are good in and of themselves.

Actually, shouldn't we do these things because we love?

(1 Cor. 13)

If we love Him we will keep His commandments and if we truly love our neighbor we dont want to see them go to Hell...Do we???

We don't want people to go to Hell, but merely screaming at people to follow the word of God and repent won't convince anyone, it will just make them angry.

I compare it to the Aesop fable about the sun and the wind making a bet to see who could remove a man's coat. The wind tried to blow the coat off the man, and push him over, but it only made the man grip his coat tighter. The sun however just made everything nice and warm, and the man eventually sat down underneath a tree and took his coat off.

If we try to make people believe in God, we will encounter resistance. But if we act as an example of God's love in our everyday life, more people will want to be like us, and we will convert more people.

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Mate, we don't feed the poor, disciple, or do any of these other things as a means for reaching a goal - we do them because they are good in and of themselves.

Actually, shouldn't we do these things because we love?

(1 Cor. 13)

Of course, they are expressions of love. His point was that we don't do them in order to reach a goal or get anything in return. We should be motivated to do these things because we love God and love others. Not because we are trying to to manipulate them or gain something. God gets the glory when we do these things, whether they ever come to faith in Christ or not.

I know. But there are those (not saying anyone here) who do good deeds out of "their goodness" for selfish reasons. I simply meant to clarify this difference. OK?

[Believers Battlecry]

Mate, we don't feed the poor, disciple, or do any of these other things as a means for reaching a goal - we do them because they are good in and of themselves.

Actually, shouldn't we do these things because we love?

(1 Cor. 13)

Of course, they are expressions of love. His point was that we don't do them in order to reach a goal or get anything in return. We should be motivated to do these things because we love God and love others. Not because we are trying to to manipulate them or gain something. God gets the glory when we do these things, whether they ever come to faith in Christ or not.

Does it concern you Kabowd that someone you know personally may die and go to Hell and you didn't talk to them about it because you didn't it was your job to speak to them out of love about their never-dying soul?

[Floatingaxe]

Mate, we don't feed the poor, disciple, or do any of these other things as a means for reaching a goal - we do them because they are good in and of themselves.

Actually, shouldn't we do these things because we love?

(1 Cor. 13)

If we love Him we will keep His commandments and if we truly love our neighbor we dont want to see them go to Hell...Do we???

We don't want people to go to Hell, but merely screaming at people to follow the word of God and repent won't convince anyone, it will just make them angry.

I compare it to the Aesop fable about the sun and the wind making a bet to see who could remove a man's coat. The wind tried to blow the coat off the man, and push him over, but it only made the man grip his coat tighter. The sun however just made everything nice and warm, and the man eventually sat down underneath a tree and took his coat off.

If we try to make people believe in God, we will encounter resistance. But if we act as an example of God's love in our everyday life, more people will want to be like us, and we will convert more people.

You can't make people believe in God. Only the Holy Spirit can do that, but He chooses to use human beings like us to introduce them to the message of Jesus. He limits Himself to us!

You are right--we must be an example, and ever ready to speak for Christ! We are His hands, His feet, His eyes, His ears, His mouth. We cannot neglect the mouth in favour of the other parts.

[Believers Battlecry]

Mate, we don't feed the poor, disciple, or do any of these other things as a means for reaching a goal - we do them because they are good in and of themselves.

Actually, shouldn't we do these things because we love?

(1 Cor. 13)

If we love Him we will keep His commandments and if we truly love our neighbor we dont want to see them go to Hell...Do we???

We don't want people to go to Hell, but merely screaming at people to follow the word of God and repent won't convince anyone, it will just make them angry.

I compare it to the Aesop fable about the sun and the wind making a bet to see who could remove a man's coat. The wind tried to blow the coat off the man, and push him over, but it only made the man grip his coat tighter. The sun however just made everything nice and warm, and the man eventually sat down underneath a tree and took his coat off.

If we try to make people believe in God, we will encounter resistance. But if we act as an example of God's love in our everyday life, more people will want to be like us, and we will convert more people.

Who has said anything about "screaming at people to follow the word of God and repent " We must follow the direction of the Holy Spirit and bypass their intellect and speak directly to the conscience by using Gods Law. Dont categorize speaking to someone about Hell and their eternal soul with some fanatical dooms day prophet. I dont think you are being fair.

[Kabowd]

Mate, we don't feed the poor, disciple, or do any of these other things as a means for reaching a goal - we do them because they are good in and of themselves.

Actually, shouldn't we do these things because we love?

(1 Cor. 13)

Of course, they are expressions of love. His point was that we don't do them in order to reach a goal or get anything in return. We should be motivated to do these things because we love God and love others. Not because we are trying to to manipulate them or gain something. God gets the glory when we do these things, whether they ever come to faith in Christ or not.

Does it concern you Kabowd that someone you know personally may die and go to Hell and you didn't talk to them about it because you didn't it was your job to speak to them out of love about their never-dying soul?

Does it concern you that approximately 40 million people are infected with HIV, and 5 people die from AIDS every minute? Does it concern you that approximately 15 million Americans can be classified as living below poverty level? We are not only called to care about those who are dying and their souls, but also those who are living and the quality of their living conditions.

[Believers Battlecry]

Jesus Counsels the Rich Young Ruler (Matt 19:16-22)NKJV

16 Now behold, one came and said to Him,

[Kabowd]

Jesus Counsels the Rich Young Ruler (Matt 19:16-22)NKJV

16 Now behold, one came and said to Him,

[Believers Battlecry]

Mate, we don't feed the poor, disciple, or do any of these other things as a means for reaching a goal - we do them because they are good in and of themselves.

Actually, shouldn't we do these things because we love?

(1 Cor. 13)

Of course, they are expressions of love. His point was that we don't do them in order to reach a goal or get anything in return. We should be motivated to do these things because we love God and love others. Not because we are trying to to manipulate them or gain something. God gets the glory when we do these things, whether they ever come to faith in Christ or not.

Does it concern you Kabowd that someone you know personally may die and go to Hell and you didn't talk to them about it because you didn't it was your job to speak to them out of love about their never-dying soul?

Does it concern you that approximately 40 million people are infected with HIV, and 5 people die from AIDS every minute? Does it concern you that approximately 15 million Americans can be classified as living below poverty level? We are not only called to care about those who are dying and their souls, but also those who are living and the quality of their living conditions.

I can't cure AIDS in the world, but we can teach abstinence. Most of the spread of AIDS is through illicit sex and IV drug use. We dont have the cure for AIDS, but we do have the cure for sin...the blood of Jesus Christ!!!