Ultra orthodox jews

[angels4u]

I watched a program about the rise of ultra orthodox Jews in Israel and how they are growing in numbers, who are they and what do they teach?

Are they sort of a cult? They talked about a football player who got converted to be ultra orthodox ,if I understand right, they make their wifes and children 7 years and up wear veils like muslim women?

Anybody knows more about them? They have long hair and wear a hat!

Thanks, Angels

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Angels,

You may want to visit this web site. Below is an excerpt from them:

http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Orthodox_Judaism

Ultra-Orthodox Judaism

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Ultra-Orthodox Judaism, sometimes called Haredi Judaism (especially in Israel), is the most theologically conservative form of Judaism. The Hebrew term "haredi" means "one who trembles" [in awe of God].

Ultra-Orthodox Jews consider their belief system and religious practices to extend in an unbroken chain back to Moses and the giving of the Torah on Mount Sinai. As a result, they often have a complicated relationship with other Jewish denominations, which they consider to be unjustifiable deviations of Judaism. Most secular historians claim, however, that the ultra-Orthodox are a relatively recent group, dating back to the Enlightenment and emancipation of Jews in Western and Central Europe.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[angels4u]

Thank you very much Dad Ernie for the link! There is alot to read on that webside, I have to do that later.....

God Bless ,Angels

Do you know how many different groups there are ?

Is this comparable to all the different denominations we have as Protestants?

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Angels,

Sorry, I didn't read the whole article about the Ultra-Orthodox Jew. I do know that they are the equivalent of the ultra-conservative Christians, and the further you get from them, the more "liberal" you are. I doubt if there is as much division in Judaism as there is in Christianity.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Guest shiloh357]

Ultra Orthodox Judaism has multiple groups. Judaism in general is made up of Orthodox, Conservative, Reformed, Reconstructionist. Within these groups there are other divisions.

Among the Orthodox for example, You have the Hasidim, Mussar, both who oppose each other, and they branch off into into groups such as the Chabad, Breslov, Bratslov, Ger and so on. There are many sub groups out there. You have different types of conservative and reformed as well. The Reformed are the "liberals." They will believe in Evolution, they will support Abortion and will typically support groups like the ACLU. I have met reformed Rabbis who also fight for the legalization of Mary Jane and other such things. Not all reformed are that way. It really depends on the congregation and the part of the country you go to.

The Orthodox do not necessarily make their wives wear veils, but they often they are expected to keep their hair covered with a scarf. Also in Israel, there are some women who actually shave their heads and then wear the scarf. I think it has something to do with piety, but I am not sure. They have their reasons.

[Dad Ernie]

Thank you Shiloh. Very interesting. But if there are as many groups as you say, then my guess would be they are each very small groups. How do you go about determining the number?

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Guest shiloh357]

they are fairly small, but they do have links to each other. A lot of what they disagree about is pretty minor (to me at least). Their numbers are smaller in the ultra orthodox. They are pretty closed up and do not engage in "outreach." The exception would be the Chabad. They are the largest, and readily accept converts. They are skittish about recieving converts from Christianity though.

I do not have any hard numbers, but I know that New York has over 13 million Jews in NY city alone. The lion's share are Orthodox. Nation wide, their numbers are dwarfed by the Conservative and Reformed.

[angels4u]

Hi Shilo,

The program on TV I watched was saying that this group is growing , they live very much under the law? Are they the ones you see praying with long beards long hair and wearing hats?

Actually, I might be misstaken but are most people in Israel today Athiest?

[Dad Ernie]

Hi Shilo,

The program on TV I watched was saying that this group is growing , they live very much under the law? Are they the ones you see praying with long beards long hair and wearing hats?

Actually, I might be misstaken but are most people in Israel today Athiest?

Greetings Angel,

This is from George, your moderator in Israel:

What would you say is the percentage of aethiests, spiritists or otherwise demonicly influenced religions?

George's response: Only 20% of Israel is orthodox. 80% are secular and a large number are in one of these classes.

I think you can take this as 80% Athiest et al. Less than 2% are Christian.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[angels4u]

This is very sad......80% Athiest.....

Angels