Texans given deadly force gun laws

[jgarden]

Japan has fewer murders in a year than America has in a day !!!

The Japanese appear unaware that having strict gun laws only gives the illusion of safety.

To be truly safe they should arm their citizens and be more like the Texans who live in a crime free society.

[Guest Hentenza]

Before or after the law, if I find someone in my living room in the middle of the night, I will shoot the perp then pray about it. I am glad I live in Texas.

God bless!

[jgarden]

Most citizens in other countries in the "civilized" world would have difficulty relating to the opinions expressed in this thread - especially the opinions of some Christians !!!

[Guest LadyC]

ummmm, care to explain what you just said? what do you mean especially the opinions of some Christians? are you saying that those of us who agree with this law are acting unChristlike? because i seem to recall in scripture where Jesus told His disciples that if they didn't own a sword, to buy one... for defending oneself.

[Eliyahuw]

If you are not attempting to steal, murder, rape, etc. why would you not like this law?

I have no firm opinion on the law. However, I have heard of horror stories where parents end up killing their children because they thought a burglar was entering their home. The fact is that people can make grave errors in thinking that they are being threatened when they actually are not. Opposition to such laws would not be based on trying to protect criminals but on trying to protect innocent people who are mistaken as criminals (or even framed as criminals?).

If I wanted to justifiably shoot an innocent person in my home; the present laws make that easy enough. This law would make it no easier. If you are going to construct a shooting. This law will not help you. Anyone who knows ballistics can construct the "perfect shooting."

No the law wasn't protecting the property owner enough. Property owners were getting sued by criminals and families of criminals.

The law also extends the definition of your home to extend to your property lines, as well as includes your automobile which is also a extension of your home. It also protects those of us who would step in and help someone being attacked. Good example is in 1998 at schlotskys down on windy hill road in atlanta a guy walked in and was threatening to kill his girlfriend that worked there and one of the customers blew him away right there. THey tried to barbq that fellow over it, but after a long trial he was finally aquitted. There should have been no arrest, no trial for defending someone in public.

The simple fact is the police are useless. First of all their not chartered or required to protect us. Their only chartered or charged to protect public property.

Secondly with as many corrupt cops that run around murdering 98 year old women and dozens of other people in the last year the public has to fear the cops just as much as the criminals.

I can say that if i were in mrs johnstons shoes when they murdered her in her own home, i would have done the same and took as many of those cops with me.

[Eliyahuw]

Most citizens in other countries in the "civilized" world would have difficulty relating to the opinions expressed in this thread - especially the opinions of some Christians !!!

Most citizens in other countries that do not have the right to own firearms aren't free either. They are at the mercy of whoever takes over their governments.

[Eliyahuw]

Most citizens in other countries in the "civilized" world would have difficulty relating to the opinions expressed in this thread - especially the opinions of some Christians !!!

You must be referring to the third world nations in which civilians can not have firearms. These are the countries in which the military uses their firearms on the un-armed population.

Not to spin off on the Iraq war, but it is a perfect example of the fact that an armed population can not be conquered and dominated.

Amen preach it brother.

[jgarden]

ummmm, care to explain what you just said? what do you mean especially the opinions of some Christians? are you saying that those of us who agree with this law are acting unChristlike? because i seem to recall in scripture where Jesus told His disciples that if they didn't own a sword, to buy one... for defending oneself.

Firearms kept in the home result in the death of a family member or acquaintance 12 times more often than the death of an intruder.

http://www.health.state.ok.us/PROGRAM/INJU...e/firearmv.html

It would appear that by bringing a gun into the household, you increase the danger of a family member being shot far more than stopping an intruder.

As for overthrowing a "tyranical" government," the Civil War demonstrated that unless the whole country is of one mind then the 2nd Amendment degenerates into neighbor killing neighbor.

The Greatest Commandment teaches us that God's Law is based on love of God and "neighbor." To my knowledge, there is nothing in the history of the early church that suggests that despite being in constant danger, Christians armed themselves with the "sword" to protect themselves.

Christianity thrived and grew not on the willingness of its members to use the sword for protection but to put themselves in God's hands - even if that meant martyrdom.

Edited March 29, 2007 by jgarden

[Leonard]

The Law of the Scripture tells us that if a thief is caught breaking into your home at night, you have every right to kill him. It is assumed that it is dark, and you can't tell whether he's armed. In the day time, however, a different standard applied; you had to show that he was actually endangering your person.......

[Eliyahuw]

ummmm, care to explain what you just said? what do you mean especially the opinions of some Christians? are you saying that those of us who agree with this law are acting unChristlike? because i seem to recall in scripture where Jesus told His disciples that if they didn't own a sword, to buy one... for defending oneself.

Firearms kept in the home result in the death of a family member or acquaintance 12 times more often than the death of an intruder.

http://www.health.state.ok.us/PROGRAM/INJU...e/firearmv.html

It would appear that by bringing a gun into the household, you increase the danger of a family member being shot far more than stopping an intruder.

As for overthrowing a "tyranical" government," the Civil War demonstrated that unless the whole country is of one mind then the 2nd Amendment degenerates into neighbor killing neighbor.

The Greatest Commandment teaches us that God's Law is based on love of God and "neighbor." To my knowledge, there is nothing in the history of the early church that suggests that despite being in constant danger, Christians armed themselves with the "sword" to protect themselves.

Christianity thrived and grew not on the willingness of its members to use the sword for protection but to put themselves in God's hands - even if that meant martyrdom.

THeres a big problem with that statistic. When a homeowner is armed, the crime goes down. So the statistics will rise in accidental deaths of those who are irresponsible.

Its part of the price that it costs to be secure.