Once again, is Good Friday Biblical?

[kittylover0991]

Hey,

I do'nt want to hijack another person's thread.. so I am asking this question.. how is good Friday biblical? (hah, hah, this must come up every year).... We all agree that Jesus was in the grave for three days and three nights, and that he rose on Sunday.... how is it that we can say he died on Friday?

Going for dying on Fridaynight... even if he was put in the grave Friday night...

One Night: Friday

One day: Saturday

2nd night: Saturday

2nd day Sunday...

According to this? Jesus rose on Monday...

Even if Jesus was buried that morning, it still wouldn't have added up.... Why do we celebrate good Friday?

Come to think of it, Passover starts on Thursday, right? and they had to take Jesus' body down for Passover? Isn't that why Joseph of Arimethea said he woudl take the Lord's body? So.... Thursday night..

First night: Thursday

First day: Friday

Second night: Friday

Second Day: Saturady

THird Night: Saturday

THird day: Sunday

so.... woudln't this mean that he woudl have to have been buried either Wednesday night or Thursday?? Not good friday?

I'm sorry if this sounds tedious, but it took someone laying it out for me to see that it could'nt possibly have been on Friday that Jesus died...

I know that this is what the bible says...

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

[Floatingaxe]

He rose on the third day. He was tried and crucified on Friday, laid entombed on Saturday, day two, and on day three, Sunday, He rose to live again. Jesus never specified 72 complete hours...

[Guest man]

Yeah, I never got that either.

If He died on friday...24 hours later it's saturday....24 more hours and it's sunday. 48 hours...2 days, not 3. The third day isn't until monday.

People may scoff, but it's little errors like this that have the non-believers shaking their head's as they walk away from us.

[Floatingaxe]

Yeah, I never got that either.

If He died on friday...24 hours later it's saturday....24 more hours and it's sunday. 48 hours...2 days, not 3. The third day isn't until monday.

People may scoff, but it's little errors like this that have the non-believers shaking their head's as they walk away from us.

Errors are only in your understanding. You can't be serious thinking that God's Word is wrong!! Only people's assumptions are wrong...which means you've got some rethinking to do.

[CaritateDei]

Yeah, I never got that either.

If He died on friday...24 hours later it's saturday....24 more hours and it's sunday. 48 hours...2 days, not 3. The third day isn't until monday.

People may scoff, but it's little errors like this that have the non-believers shaking their head's as they walk away from us.

Errors are only in your understanding. You can't be serious thinking that God's Word is wrong!! Only people's assumptions are wrong...which means you've got some rethinking to do.

Again, floatingaxe and I are in agreement! HIGH FIVE, floatingaxe! This is a common misconception I have with my high-schoolers. If you are going on a three day retreat, and it starts on Friday, it will be over Sunday. The first day is Friday, the second day is Saturday, the third is Sunday. On the third day of his Passion, he rose again.

Friday was day one, Saturday was day 2, Sunday was day three. It does not say "Three days later."

[Guest shiloh357]

Hey,

I do'nt want to hijack another person's thread.. so I am asking this question.. how is good Friday biblical? (hah, hah, this must come up every year).... We all agree that Jesus was in the grave for three days and three nights, and that he rose on Sunday.... how is it that we can say he died on Friday?

Going for dying on Fridaynight... even if he was put in the grave Friday night...

One Night: Friday

One day: Saturday

2nd night: Saturday

2nd day Sunday...

According to this? Jesus rose on Monday...

Even if Jesus was buried that morning, it still wouldn't have added up.... Why do we celebrate good Friday?

Come to think of it, Passover starts on Thursday, right? and they had to take Jesus' body down for Passover? Isn't that why Joseph of Arimethea said he woudl take the Lord's body? So.... Thursday night..

First night: Thursday

First day: Friday

Second night: Friday

Second Day: Saturady

THird Night: Saturday

THird day: Sunday

so.... woudln't this mean that he woudl have to have been buried either Wednesday night or Thursday?? Not good friday?

I'm sorry if this sounds tedious, but it took someone laying it out for me to see that it could'nt possibly have been on Friday that Jesus died...

I know that this is what the bible says...

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Jesus was more likely buried on Thursday or Wedensday night. There is alot of debate about that. The problem is that John tells us that the next day was a "high day." What this is referring to is the "High Sabbath." There were seven High Sabbaths in the annual festival cycle, and a High Sabbath was not referring to a regular "Saturday" Sabbath, but each of these High Sabbaths coincided with the annual festivals. The first day of unleavened bread was the "high Sabbath" being referred to in by John. The other three gospels took for granted that the reader knew, given the date of Jesus death what kind of Sabbath the next days was. They did not elaborate.

So, a High Sabbath could occur on any day of the week.

Many see Jesus' use of Jonah as meaning that he would be in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights (72 hours) the same amount of time Jonah was in the great fish.. It is compelling since it would not make much a sign if Jesus' time in the grave didn't match Jonah's time in the belly of the fish.

One of the arguments against a full 72 hours in preference to the "Friday" crucifixion, is that it was common to count part of a day as a full day. Jesus' burial on friday, therefore, according to this assertion counts as if he had been dead the whole day, and since he was in the grave for at least a little while on the first day of the week, that counts as the third full day. Many discount Jesus reference to Jonah as depicting a literal 72-hour burial and therefore rely on this method of telling time.

The problem with that argument is that the "part counting as a whole" concept was not a normal mode of communication. In ancient Israel, The month of Nisan (Passover month) also marked the new year for kings. So, if a King died and his son was crowned only month before the 1st of Nisan, he was counted as having reighned an entire year. New born children were considered one year old at birth even though they had only been alive for nine months.

It was those kinds of issues that the "a part equals the whole" concept applied. If I said I was coming to your house in five days, how would know when to expect me, if only part of day equaled a whole? It would get very confusing to communicate to run a business if that were a normal mode of communication.

The part of day equals the whole day assertion kinda collapses when trying to apply it to the resurrection of Christ.

The next issue in play, is the fact that ancient Israel operated from lunar calendar, not a solar calendar. Therefore, "the first day of the week on lunar calendar is still "Saturday night" from the standpoint of our solar calendar.

People have the idea that Jesus was resurrected on Sunday morning sometime after midnight, but that is not in the Bible. It says the first day of the week was the day of His resurrection, therefore, he could just as easily got from the tomb at the end of the Sabbath exactly 72 hours after his burial, if he was buried Wed evening, and he would still be resurrected on the first day of the week according to the lunar calendar God was operating by.

[CaritateDei]

Hey,

I do'nt want to hijack another person's thread.. so I am asking this question.. how is good Friday biblical? (hah, hah, this must come up every year).... We all agree that Jesus was in the grave for three days and three nights, and that he rose on Sunday.... how is it that we can say he died on Friday?

Going for dying on Fridaynight... even if he was put in the grave Friday night...

One Night: Friday

One day: Saturday

2nd night: Saturday

2nd day Sunday...

According to this? Jesus rose on Monday...

Even if Jesus was buried that morning, it still wouldn't have added up.... Why do we celebrate good Friday?

Come to think of it, Passover starts on Thursday, right? and they had to take Jesus' body down for Passover? Isn't that why Joseph of Arimethea said he woudl take the Lord's body? So.... Thursday night..

First night: Thursday

First day: Friday

Second night: Friday

Second Day: Saturady

THird Night: Saturday

THird day: Sunday

so.... woudln't this mean that he woudl have to have been buried either Wednesday night or Thursday?? Not good friday?

I'm sorry if this sounds tedious, but it took someone laying it out for me to see that it could'nt possibly have been on Friday that Jesus died...

I know that this is what the bible says...

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Jesus was more likely buried on Thursday or Wedensday night. There is alot of debate about that. The problem is that John tells us that the next day was a "high day." What this is referring to is the "High Sabbath." There were seven High Sabbaths in the annual festival cycle, and a High Sabbath was not referring to a regular "Saturday" Sabbath, but each of these High Sabbaths coincided with the annual festivals. The first day of unleavened bread was the "high Sabbath" being referred to in by John. The other three gospels took for granted that the reader knew, given the date of Jesus death what kind of Sabbath the next days was. They did not elaborate.

So, a High Sabbath could occur on any day of the week.

Many see Jesus' use of Jonah as meaning that he would be in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights (72 hours) the same amount of time Jonah was in the great fish.. It is compelling since it would not make much a sign if Jesus' time in the grave didn't match Jonah's time in the belly of the fish.

One of the arguments against a full 72 hours in preference to the "Friday" crucifixion, is that it was common to count part of a day as a full day. Jesus' burial on friday, therefore, according to this assertion counts as if he had been dead the whole day, and since he was in the grave for at least a little while on the first day of the week, that counts as the third full day. Many discount Jesus reference to Jonah as depicting a literal 72-hour burial and therefore rely on this method of telling time.

The problem with that argument is that the "part counting as a whole" concept was not a normal mode of communication. In ancient Israel, The month of Nisan (Passover month) also marked the new year for kings. So, if a King died and his son was crowned only month before the 1st of Nisan, he was counted as having reighned an entire year. New born children were considered one year old at birth even though they had only been alive for nine months.

It was those kinds of issues that the "a part equals the whole" concept applied. If I said I was coming to your house in five days, how would know when to expect me, if only part of day equaled a whole? It would get very confusing to communicate to run a business if that were a normal mode of comminication.

The part of day equals the whole day assertion kinda collapses when trying to apply it to the resurrection of Christ.

The next issue in play, is the fact that ancient Israel operated from lunar calendar, not a solar calendar. Therefore, "the first day of the week on lunar calendar is still "Saturday night" from the standpoint of our solar calendar.

People have the idea that Jesus was resurrected on Sunday morning sometime after midnight, but that is not in the Bible. It says the first day of the week was the day of His resurrection, therefore, he could just as easily got from the tomb at the end of the Sabbath exactly 72 hours after his burial, if he was buried Wed evening, and he would still be resurrected on the first day of the week according to the lunar calendar God was operating by.

Ok...getting technical, eh? Shiloh actually is correct here...of course...being that we didn't have the calendar that we have now back then, well...we can't know for absolute certain.

However, traditions of the Apostles have given us the celebration on Friday.

[Guest man]

Yeah, I never got that either.

If He died on friday...24 hours later it's saturday....24 more hours and it's sunday. 48 hours...2 days, not 3. The third day isn't until monday.

People may scoff, but it's little errors like this that have the non-believers shaking their head's as they walk away from us.

Errors are only in your understanding. You can't be serious thinking that God's Word is wrong!! Only people's assumptions are wrong...which means you've got some rethinking to do.

Where do you see in my post that I said the Word of God is wrong?

Please point it out because I can't see it.

[Guest shiloh357]

Ok...getting technical, eh? Shiloh actually is correct here...of course...being that we didn't have the calendar that we have now back then, well...we can't know for absolute certain.

Nonsense. We know exactly how a lunar worked, and the Jews are using the same calendar today that they have for 5,000 years. Nothing has changed in that regard.

However, traditions of the Apostles have given us the celebration on Friday.

Nothing in the New Testament demands that we understand Jesus having died on Friday. If you are referring to something outside of the Bible, well it is just tradition, and is subject to testing against the Word of God.

[Floatingaxe]

it's little errors like this

I'm sorry, but didn't you say this? Were you referring to your understanding that there was a miscount?