Postmodernis...The Emerging Church

[Floatingaxe]

There have been many 40-day journeys and fasts that churches and individuals have undergone to bring people into deeper devotion to Christ. Nothing wrong with that. It is a method, yes, but it is a biblically sound thing.

Try it. You will bless God, and you yourself will be blessed.

[apothanein kerdos]

There have been many 40-day journeys and fasts that churches and individuals have undergone to bring people into deeper devotion to Christ. Nothing wrong with that. It is a method, yes, but it is a biblically sound thing.

Try it. You will bless God, and you yourself will be blessed.

Again, this is using pragmatism. What if God has not called someone to a 40 day journey? Just because He has called some does not mean He has called all, or that it is prescriptive (again, all texts that deal with it are descriptive).

I have many friends that came to Christ, or gained a deeper understanding of Christ, by using LSD. Some saw Jesus and He told them to stop. Others had an experience while doing it that what they were doing was wrong...yet all of them used LSD and came to a deeper understanding of Christ. Is it then justifiable for me to use LSD as long as I am trying to gain a deeper understanding of Christ?

[methinkshe]

There have been many 40-day journeys and fasts that churches and individuals have undergone to bring people into deeper devotion to Christ. Nothing wrong with that. It is a method, yes, but it is a biblically sound thing.

Try it. You will bless God, and you yourself will be blessed.

The problem is when methodology, rule-keeping, keeping the law, whatever, overtake the freedom that comes with Christ-in Me. My experience is that I need not to DO, so much as to UNDO, i.e. strip myself of doing and actions and other things. Just let Jesus-in-me come through. When I am nothing, the least, the most worthless, then Jesus is most able to be something in me. Every time I try to DO, then Jesus is pushed into the background. There is a very fine line between doctrine and heresy - mostly it is just an over-emphasis.

In Christ Jesus,

Ruth

[Floatingaxe]

There have been many 40-day journeys and fasts that churches and individuals have undergone to bring people into deeper devotion to Christ. Nothing wrong with that. It is a method, yes, but it is a biblically sound thing.

Try it. You will bless God, and you yourself will be blessed.

Again, this is using pragmatism. What if God has not called someone to a 40 day journey? Just because He has called some does not mean He has called all, or that it is prescriptive (again, all texts that deal with it are descriptive).

I have many friends that came to Christ, or gained a deeper understanding of Christ, by using LSD. Some saw Jesus and He told them to stop. Others had an experience while doing it that what they were doing was wrong...yet all of them used LSD and came to a deeper understanding of Christ. Is it then justifiable for me to use LSD as long as I am trying to gain a deeper understanding of Christ?

Of course God isn't calling us all to do a 40-day fast.

The LSD comments are needless tripe, and not fit for Worthy readers. No one is going to come to Christ from the influence of Satanic drug use.

[apothanein kerdos]

There have been many 40-day journeys and fasts that churches and individuals have undergone to bring people into deeper devotion to Christ. Nothing wrong with that. It is a method, yes, but it is a biblically sound thing.

Try it. You will bless God, and you yourself will be blessed.

Again, this is using pragmatism. What if God has not called someone to a 40 day journey? Just because He has called some does not mean He has called all, or that it is prescriptive (again, all texts that deal with it are descriptive).

I have many friends that came to Christ, or gained a deeper understanding of Christ, by using LSD. Some saw Jesus and He told them to stop. Others had an experience while doing it that what they were doing was wrong...yet all of them used LSD and came to a deeper understanding of Christ. Is it then justifiable for me to use LSD as long as I am trying to gain a deeper understanding of Christ?

Of course God isn't calling us all to do a 40-day fast.

The LSD comments are needless tripe, and not fit for Worthy readers. No one is going to come to Christ from the influence of Satanic drug use.

Can I use LSD to get closer to God since it works for other people?

[Floatingaxe]

There have been many 40-day journeys and fasts that churches and individuals have undergone to bring people into deeper devotion to Christ. Nothing wrong with that. It is a method, yes, but it is a biblically sound thing.

Try it. You will bless God, and you yourself will be blessed.

Again, this is using pragmatism. What if God has not called someone to a 40 day journey? Just because He has called some does not mean He has called all, or that it is prescriptive (again, all texts that deal with it are descriptive).

I have many friends that came to Christ, or gained a deeper understanding of Christ, by using LSD. Some saw Jesus and He told them to stop. Others had an experience while doing it that what they were doing was wrong...yet all of them used LSD and came to a deeper understanding of Christ. Is it then justifiable for me to use LSD as long as I am trying to gain a deeper understanding of Christ?

Of course God isn't calling us all to do a 40-day fast.

The LSD comments are needless tripe, and not fit for Worthy readers. No one is going to come to Christ from the influence of Satanic drug use.

Can I use LSD to get closer to God since it works for other people?

It doesn't work for other people.

[apothanein kerdos]

There have been many 40-day journeys and fasts that churches and individuals have undergone to bring people into deeper devotion to Christ. Nothing wrong with that. It is a method, yes, but it is a biblically sound thing.

Try it. You will bless God, and you yourself will be blessed.

Again, this is using pragmatism. What if God has not called someone to a 40 day journey? Just because He has called some does not mean He has called all, or that it is prescriptive (again, all texts that deal with it are descriptive).

I have many friends that came to Christ, or gained a deeper understanding of Christ, by using LSD. Some saw Jesus and He told them to stop. Others had an experience while doing it that what they were doing was wrong...yet all of them used LSD and came to a deeper understanding of Christ. Is it then justifiable for me to use LSD as long as I am trying to gain a deeper understanding of Christ?

Of course God isn't calling us all to do a 40-day fast.

The LSD comments are needless tripe, and not fit for Worthy readers. No one is going to come to Christ from the influence of Satanic drug use.

Can I use LSD to get closer to God since it works for other people?

It doesn't work for other people.

I have many friends that came to Christ, or gained a deeper understanding of Christ, by using LSD. Some saw Jesus and He told them to stop. Others had an experience while doing it that what they were doing was wrong...yet all of them used LSD and came to a deeper understanding of Christ. Is it then justifiable for me to use LSD as long as I am trying to gain a deeper understanding of Christ?

[Floatingaxe]

There have been many 40-day journeys and fasts that churches and individuals have undergone to bring people into deeper devotion to Christ. Nothing wrong with that. It is a method, yes, but it is a biblically sound thing.

Try it. You will bless God, and you yourself will be blessed.

Again, this is using pragmatism. What if God has not called someone to a 40 day journey? Just because He has called some does not mean He has called all, or that it is prescriptive (again, all texts that deal with it are descriptive).

I have many friends that came to Christ, or gained a deeper understanding of Christ, by using LSD. Some saw Jesus and He told them to stop. Others had an experience while doing it that what they were doing was wrong...yet all of them used LSD and came to a deeper understanding of Christ. Is it then justifiable for me to use LSD as long as I am trying to gain a deeper understanding of Christ?

Of course God isn't calling us all to do a 40-day fast.

The LSD comments are needless tripe, and not fit for Worthy readers. No one is going to come to Christ from the influence of Satanic drug use.

Can I use LSD to get closer to God since it works for other people?

It doesn't work for other people.

I have many friends that came to Christ, or gained a deeper understanding of Christ, by using LSD. Some saw Jesus and He told them to stop. Others had an experience while doing it that what they were doing was wrong...yet all of them used LSD and came to a deeper understanding of Christ. Is it then justifiable for me to use LSD as long as I am trying to gain a deeper understanding of Christ?

You must know full well that your friends never had the intention of finding Christ. The intention was carnal pleasure.

It is never of God to dabble in drug use...it is Satanic. Methinks you are baiting.

[methinkshe]

There have been many 40-day journeys and fasts that churches and individuals have undergone to bring people into deeper devotion to Christ. Nothing wrong with that. It is a method, yes, but it is a biblically sound thing.

Try it. You will bless God, and you yourself will be blessed.

Again, this is using pragmatism. What if God has not called someone to a 40 day journey? Just because He has called some does not mean He has called all, or that it is prescriptive (again, all texts that deal with it are descriptive).

I have many friends that came to Christ, or gained a deeper understanding of Christ, by using LSD. Some saw Jesus and He told them to stop. Others had an experience while doing it that what they were doing was wrong...yet all of them used LSD and came to a deeper understanding of Christ. Is it then justifiable for me to use LSD as long as I am trying to gain a deeper understanding of Christ?

Of course God isn't calling us all to do a 40-day fast.

The LSD comments are needless tripe, and not fit for Worthy readers. No one is going to come to Christ from the influence of Satanic drug use.

Please excuse me if I am even more than usually incoherent - I have one ear on the cricket - England are playing Bangladesh and need to win to progress into the semi-finals....but that's another story. Just to confess that I am listening on the side..

Do you remember how God used Nebuchadnezzar? I have no doubt that God can and does call those who are using drugs, too. But I wouldn't want to make a rule of it; like...you must use drugs so that God can call you....

I never cease to be surprised by how or why or when Jesus calls people to Himself. I do know, however, that God HAS called people under the influence of drugs and that they have been marvellously delivered. Just last Sunday I listened to the testimony of a young man who was a regular/addicted pot user who heard God's word and when he went home challenged God and said: if you are real then stop me from smoking this joint. He was promptly sick. Being the good sceptic that he was, he didn't believe and tried another joint. He instantly threw up all over the carpet. One year later he is praising God for taking him from being a cannabis user and incapable of keeping down a job to being in regular employment and going on with the Lord. So, I have to allow that God actually does come to the druggies and sinners and tax collectors and all those useless members of society - just like me.

Ruth

[apothanein kerdos]

There have been many 40-day journeys and fasts that churches and individuals have undergone to bring people into deeper devotion to Christ. Nothing wrong with that. It is a method, yes, but it is a biblically sound thing.

Try it. You will bless God, and you yourself will be blessed.

Again, this is using pragmatism. What if God has not called someone to a 40 day journey? Just because He has called some does not mean He has called all, or that it is prescriptive (again, all texts that deal with it are descriptive).

I have many friends that came to Christ, or gained a deeper understanding of Christ, by using LSD. Some saw Jesus and He told them to stop. Others had an experience while doing it that what they were doing was wrong...yet all of them used LSD and came to a deeper understanding of Christ. Is it then justifiable for me to use LSD as long as I am trying to gain a deeper understanding of Christ?

Of course God isn't calling us all to do a 40-day fast.

The LSD comments are needless tripe, and not fit for Worthy readers. No one is going to come to Christ from the influence of Satanic drug use.

Can I use LSD to get closer to God since it works for other people?

It doesn't work for other people.

I have many friends that came to Christ, or gained a deeper understanding of Christ, by using LSD. Some saw Jesus and He told them to stop. Others had an experience while doing it that what they were doing was wrong...yet all of them used LSD and came to a deeper understanding of Christ. Is it then justifiable for me to use LSD as long as I am trying to gain a deeper understanding of Christ?

You must know full well that your friends never had the intention of finding Christ. The intention was carnal pleasure.

It is never of God to dabble in drug use...it is Satanic. Methinks you are baiting.

Then if it's an incorrect method, why do you support Rick warren? Its the same concept