angels4u Posted April 14, 2007 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 55 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted April 14, 2007 Think? Ohhhh, I'm just gonna stay away from this one! hahahaha did he get you back for it ? (still laughing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest giftofmusic_ Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 so then how in the world does an obese person lose the weight without dieting?? isnt a "diet" a way of eating? feels like starving herself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat8585 Posted April 14, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,360 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 7,866 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/18/1946 Share Posted April 14, 2007 so then how in the world does an obese person lose the weight without dieting?? isnt a "diet" a way of eating? feels like starving herself Hi, and welcome to Worthy. If you think of it as dieting, you most likely won't keep the weight off if you lose it, because once you reach your goal, it will be tempting to go back to your old ways. Think of it as a lifestyle change that is from now on. That's what I'm doing. Don't follow any diet, just focus on eating healthier, and exercising. It's slow--but sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnie Posted April 14, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Think? Ohhhh, I'm just gonna stay away from this one! hahahaha did he get you back for it ? (still laughing! He gets me back by mentioning it. Then I have to explain the WHOLE story to folks like you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iryssa Posted April 14, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 117 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,860 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/13/1984 Share Posted April 14, 2007 so then how in the world does an obese person lose the weight without dieting?? isnt a "diet" a way of eating? feels like starving herself Hi, and welcome to Worthy. If you think of it as dieting, you most likely won't keep the weight off if you lose it, because once you reach your goal, it will be tempting to go back to your old ways. Think of it as a lifestyle change that is from now on. That's what I'm doing. Don't follow any diet, just focus on eating healthier, and exercising. It's slow--but sure. Amen. Read French Women Don't Get Fat...it explains why this philosophy is dead-on accurate (it's why French women actually don't get fat). Also, I think this study was focusing on fad diets (like Atkins, for example)...it's not talking about healthy lifestyle changes such as eating more vegetables and less potato chips, or adding some workout time (heck, even a couple of 15-minute walks a day can make a difference). Honestly, I don't find the results of that study surprising at all. I'll bet the doctors didn't, either...they just needed some way to convince the general populace to listen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 actually, atkins DOES stress lifestyle change... with an emphasis on veggies. that's why i don't follow atkins LOL, i HATE veggies. exercise is encouraged but not emphasized in the book, as i understand it, but on the low-carb forums i go to, those who are devout atkins people are adament about including exercise in your lifestyle. and potato chips are an absolute nono on atkins... on any low carb diet, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iryssa Posted April 16, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 117 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,860 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/13/1984 Share Posted April 16, 2007 More like a lifestyle OVERHAUL with that one (you'll never catch me giving up bread with my hamburger, that's for sure!!)...what I'm talking about are little changes...walk the stairs instead of taking the elevator (if it's a long way to go, take the elevator to three floors down from where you need to be and walk the rest). Instead of pulling out the bag of potato chips and eating as many as you can from that, put some in a small bowl and make up your mind that you won't eat any more than that. Instead of having a cookie, have a healthy granola bar (save the cookie for when you want to reward yourself). Pack walnuts in your purse so you don't go for McDonald's or Krispy Kreme when you feel a snack attack coming on. Eat more slowly so your body has time to realize it's full. Drink just one more glass of water a day. Add just one carrot to your diet. Make changes like this gradually, so your body doesn't balk at the changes...the huge-overhaul-sudden-change type of diet is what causes yo-yo dieting...your body goes "but I WANT all those other things," so eventually you give-in and wind up back at square one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axxman Posted April 16, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,292 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 16, 2007 Working out is essential to weight loss. Gaining muscle is even better. Every 1lb of muscle burns approx. 50 calories a day. So if you add 10 lbs of muscle your body will burn about 500 calories all by itself...not to mention however many calories you burn by working out to build that muscle. If you are on a 2000 calorie diet then your body will burn 1/4 of those calories by itself. Exercise and building muscle is a HUGE component. Also...don't exercise to lose weight...exercise to lose body fat. Almost anybody can easily lose 10-15lbs of weight in two weeks...its relatively easy...but almost NONE of it will be fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedeemedByHim Posted April 20, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 63 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,157 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/25/1982 Share Posted April 20, 2007 The world's largest study of weight loss has shown that diets do not work for the vast majority of slimmers and may even put lives at risk. More than two-thirds pile the pounds straight back on, raising the danger of heart attack, stroke and diabetes. Indeed most dieters end up heavier than they did to start with, the researchers found. They warn this type of yo-yo behaviour is linked to a host of health problems. And they say the strain that repeated weight loss and gain places on the body means most people would have been better off not dieting at all. The findings follow other research that shows the UK is in the grip of a dieting frenzy, with one in four Britons at any one time trying to lose weight. The average woman is estimated to lose and gain 251/2 stone during her lifetime - putting on 151/2 stone for the ten stone she loses through dieting. Last night, the U.S. scientists behind the latest research - the most thorough and comprehensive analysis of its kind - said that dieting simply does not work. The University of California researchers analysed the results of more than 30 studies involving thousands of slimmers. Although the overview did not name specific weight loss plans, popular diets in recent years include the low carbohydrate, high protein Atkins diet and the GI diet, which is rich in slow-burning wholegrain carbohydrates. Pooling the results of the various studies clearly showed that while people do lose weight initially, most quickly put all the pounds back on. In fact, most people end up weighing more than they did to begin with. Researcher Dr Traci Mann said: "You can initially lost 5 to 10 per cent of your weight on any number of diets. "But after this honeymoon period, the weight comes back. We found that the majority of people regained all the weight, plus more. Sustained weight loss was found only in a small minority of participants, while complete weight regain was found in the majority." Dr Mann's research showed that up to two-thirds of dieters put on all the weight they lose - and more - over a four to five-year period. Half of those taking part in one study were more than 11lb heavier five years later, while dieters taking part in another study actually ended up heavier than other volunteers who hadn't tried to lose weight. A four-year study into the health of 19,000 men revealed that most of those who put on weight had dieted in the years before the start of the study. Bleak as these figures seem, the true picture could be even worse, as it is thought that most people lie about their weight - and don't like to tell researchers that their weight has started to creep up again. The analysis, published in the journal American Psychologist, concluded dieters may actually be damaging their health. Research has shown the repeated rapid weight gain and loss associated with dieting can double the risk of death from heart disease, including heart attacks, and the risk of premature death in general. Such yo-yo weight loss has also been linked to stroke and diabetes and shown to suppress the immune system, making the body more vulnerable to infection. Dr Mann said: "We decided to dig up and analyse every study that followed people on diets for two to five years. We concluded most of them would have been better off not going on the diet at all. "Their weight would have been pretty much the same, and their bodies would not suffer the wear and tear from losing weight and gaining it all back. "The benefits of dieting are simply too small and the potential harms of dieting are too large for it to be recommended as a safe and effective treatment for obesity." The psychologist, who advises would-be slimmers to swap calorie-controlled diets for a balanced diet coupled with regular exercise, added: "Exercise may well be the key factor leading to sustained weight loss. Studies consistently find that people who report the most exercise also have the most weight loss." The finding comes as Britain fights a rising tide of obesity. A growing reliance on fast food and time-saving technology has led to the UK developing the worst weight problem in Europe, with almost a quarter of adults classed as obese. Last night, British experts said that fad diets do not work and that the key to maintaining a healthy weight is making gradual, long-term changes. Dr Beckie Lang, of the Association for the Study of Obesity, said: "Maintaining a healthy weight isn't about going on a diet and coming off a diet when you reach your target weight. It is about adopting skills that change your eating habits for life." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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