Defiance to real id develops in Montana

[Eliyahuw]

You're not serious, are you Axxman? If you are you are taking things way too far, and walking straight into a trap.

Real ID is one of the most evil scams ever and is totally anti-constitutional. Not only democrats hate it, but you'll find, if you make some enquiries that a lot of Republican politicians hate it also.

Don't take my word for any of this, do some research. There are tons of sites on it. And as a Christian, you should be especially wary of it, as your religion will appear on the front of the card, and just as in 1933 as soon as Adolf Hitler came to power he introduced a national register which enabled him to define who were Jews and who were non-Jews, and we know what that gave rise to, when the antichrist's government rules the world, all this information, conveniently, be available to him.

In all seriousness..and don't hate me for this...but I was just trying to rile you up a bit.

On the flip-side...I am not a constitutionalist. I don't believe in all these "rights" that so many people hold so dear. Now don't get me wrong...the "rights" are cool, and I don't necessarily want to live without them completely...but I don't really see them as God given or anything.

I do believe that the American Constitution is a good document, although the Bill of Rights kinda screwed it up. Ultimately, the Bill of Rights gives people the "right" to disobey God...and I don't necessarily like that.

The bill of rights are a integral part of the Constitution. Without them there would be no control over the government. These rights are based on principles laid out by God, for example, 1st amendment, 2nd amendment 4th amendment 5 amendment are some fine examples of the bible in action.

[Eliyahuw]

The Founding Fathers believed in Christ and wished to create a skeleton for their free from tyranny nation. Unlke most of what is now put into law, the Constitution was built upon Christian morals. Yes, it was written by man but the Constitution has never caused any hurts. Its abuse, however, has.

Whatever...

America was built on Tyranny. Ask your "Christian" founding fathers which christian morals they employed when they made treaties with native tribes in the Northeast and then slughtered them all. George Washington himself was responsible for making peace with numerous Iroquios tribes just so that they wouldn't expect it when he slaughtered them all.

From June to December, 1779... 40 Indian settlements were massacred and thousands of their plantations were devastated.

I don't harp too much about what these men did in founding the greatest nation on Earth...but to make them out as Holy Warriors of justice and Christiansity is insane.

you obviously do not know much about the history. Powhatten made treaties with the settlers in jamestown VA, they lived in peace for many years. Then he died and his son made war against the settlers. he tried to poison them, destroy their wells and crops. there was a tribe that was a sub tribe of them and they warned the settlers about the impending attack and the settlers retaliated in defense. this was played out all across the US everytime settlers moved into an area. Eventually Government got involved trying to settle the land and yes the Government made promises it didn't keep. The fact is that it was inevitalbe that this country would be settled and the indians were in the way. They should have participated and maybe they would have had something out of it.

The land was there for the taking, no one owned it, not even the indians. they had no concept of property ownership or system like that. it was wherever they pitched their tent wsa their home.

And Axeman, indians did not own plantations. So they could not have been destroyed by the US government.

[Axxman]

you obviously do not know much about the history. Powhatten made treaties with the settlers in jamestown VA, they lived in peace for many years. Then he died and his son made war against the settlers. he tried to poison them, destroy their wells and crops. there was a tribe that was a sub tribe of them and they warned the settlers about the impending attack and the settlers retaliated in defense. this was played out all across the US everytime settlers moved into an area. Eventually Government got involved trying to settle the land and yes the Government made promises it didn't keep. The fact is that it was inevitalbe that this country would be settled and the indians were in the way. They should have participated and maybe they would have had something out of it.

The land was there for the taking, no one owned it, not even the indians. they had no concept of property ownership or system like that. it was wherever they pitched their tent wsa their home.

And Axeman, indians did not own plantations. So they could not have been destroyed by the US government.

Ha!! I don't know history? Well perhaps George Washington wasn't aware of history either since he's the one who ordered the non-existent plantations destroyed...

[tired-of-fakes]

The Founding Fathers believed in Christ and wished to create a skeleton for their free from tyranny nation. Unlke most of what is now put into law, the Constitution was built upon Christian morals. Yes, it was written by man but the Constitution has never caused any hurts. Its abuse, however, has.

Whatever...

America was built on Tyranny. Ask your "Christian" founding fathers which christian morals they employed when they made treaties with native tribes in the Northeast and then slughtered them all. George Washington himself was responsible for making peace with numerous Iroquios tribes just so that they wouldn't expect it when he slaughtered them all.

From June to December, 1779... 40 Indian settlements were massacred and thousands of their plantations were devastated.

I don't harp too much about what these men did in founding the greatest nation on Earth...but to make them out as Holy Warriors of justice and Christiansity is insane.

Yes, they did things that with our hindsight we realize were not very honorable but they believed that the Indians were not humans and thus it was like moving cattle. I know you will attack this but this is not my belief, just a statement of what our Founding Fathers believed.

[Axxman]

Yes, they did things that with our hindsight we realize were not very honorable but they believed that the Indians were not humans and thus it was like moving cattle. I know you will attack this but this is not my belief, just a statement of what our Founding Fathers believed.

Ah...so Washington was preaching Jesus Christ to "mere" animals in his mind. If Washington believed they were animals then why did he refer to them as "people" and wish them "happiness?"

Did Washington speak to all animals this way...or just the ones he wanted to kill for his own personal wealth?