Salvation question

[Eliyahuw]

The multitude asked, "what shall we do?". Did Peter tell them to accept Christ in their hearts as their Lord and personal savior? Did he tell the just call on the name of the Lord and you will be saved? No, he did not. He said this -

YES he did. This is a synecdoche which is a figure of speech in which:

* a term denoting a part of something is used to refer to the whole thing, or

* a term denoting a thing (a "whole") is used to refer to part of it, or

* a term denoting a specific class of thing (a "species") is used to refer to a larger, more general class (a "genus"), or

* a term denoting a general class of thing (genus) is used to refer to a smaller, more specific class (species), or

* a term denoting a material is used to refer to an object composed of that material.

Therefore, Repent in the verse below represents call on the name of the Lord, accept christ into your heart as personal savior and believe on Jesus Christ.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

The whole point of this scripture is to repent of our sins and be baptized FOR the remission of sins. The whole purpose for baptism is for the remission of sins.

Now, notice that when they asked what they should do Paul said to be baptized, yet you say that

Your not reading the verses correctly. you are adding to the scriptures your own understanding.

[Floatingaxe]

You can't be born again if your not first born of the water (fleshly birth. time you were in the womb).

so it requires you to be born a human, then you can be born again in the spirit!

Yes, thank-you Eli.

[Floatingaxe]

You can't be born again if your not first born of the water (fleshly birth. time you were in the womb).

so it requires you to be born a human, then you can be born again in the spirit!

Yes, thank-you Eli.

The new birth -

[exrockstar]

i just hve to ask this general question. do my points have any weight?

you don't have to agree with me but have i said anthing that made you say "hmmmmm?"

I know Horiz and ruck have been following this thread for a while so i think we know where

we are presenting from.

im feeling likke ive been a madman.

just a question ... 3xR0c|<stAr

[Guest]

Father forgive us for not seeking You that we may be clear. There many things that we dont completely understand, yet Your Word testifies that they are there. Lord, we desire clarity that we may be of one mind concerning You. Lord, I drop all ideas, all assumptions and leave them before You. Father our understanding is limited, quicken our spirits Lord that we may see You. Anything but You is a distraction. Lord, we desire to be focused, and as You reveal, I pray that our hearts our open to recieve Your Word. Father we thank You thru Christ Jesus, that Your forgiveness is quick, and that You truly desire for us to come to a full knowledge. Keep us for Your Name sake.

In Jesus Name

Amen.

Amen!

[Guest]

i just have to ask this general question. do my points have any weight?

you don't have to agree with me but have i said anything that made you say "hmmmmm?"

I know Horiz and ruck have been following this thread for a while so i think we know where

we are presenting from.

just a question ... 3xR0c|<stAr

For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

1 Corinthians 2:2

You Go Bro!

Keep On Keeping On!

Love, Joe

[Eliyahuw]

You can't be born again if your not first born of the water (fleshly birth. time you were in the womb).

so it requires you to be born a human, then you can be born again in the spirit!

Yes, thank-you Eli.

The new birth -

[exrockstar]

heavenly father I want to thank you for this thread.

I know you're presence is here. I can tell because we have a calm, cool, and respectful

attitude towards each other. That is the way brothers and sisters should communicate.

we may be like a ship that is teetering a little off coarse but we are quick to put it back.

thank you for you strength and hope that some thing said may be like a seed planted

and blossom later if it is your will.

we thank you. ... 3xR0c|<stAr

[exrockstar]

i just have to ask this general question. do my points have any weight?

you don't have to agree with me but have i said anything that made you say "hmmmmm?"

I know Horiz and ruck have been following this thread for a while so i think we know where

we are presenting from.

just a question ... 3xR0c|<stAr

For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

1 Corinthians 2:2

You Go Bro!

Keep On Keeping On!

Love, Joe

hey Joe, I was going to connect what we know of as water baptism and baptism by the Holy Spirit.

How can I say "Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism

if i dont explain what that one baptism that I stand by is?

[Guest lnj]

How we digress.

If you go BACK a few pages, you will see the original question was answered.

You will still be Saved if you haven't been Baptised. We are to BE like Jesus. If He did it, then it's a good example to Follow the Master.

It's a "simple" answer but has been blown apart by discussions and debates/arguments.