Legalization of marijuana

[Eliyahuw]

Methamphetamine causes psychosis. Many addicts require psychiatric treatment for life, and most can't afford it. That means they burden social programs funded by our tax dollars.

....So let's make it legal.

did you know that the success rate of a meth addict staying clean is only 6%? i'd be willing to bet that every one of those who fall into the six percent know God. i honestly do not believe it is possible for a meth addict to stay clean for life without Him.

just a little bit of trivia.

I will just say one thing on this meth issue....LadyC is right. It's VERY hard to stay clean....but not impossible. Once that experience is ingrained in the person's psyche, it is VERY HARD to let go. The person grows very attached.

The reason its hard to get off of is because it makes you feel so alert, so alive. AT the same time the chemicals used to enhance the ephedrine eat you from the inside out.

[Eliyahuw]

I have prayed and sought God's guidance, and the following verse keeps coming to mind:

Gen. 1:29 "And God said 'See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed...'"

As far as I know, marijuana is classified botanically as an herb.

I was looking for outside perspectives on this, and hadn't seen this topic posted here.

Christians who are pro legalization of marijuana always use this verse. Would you also then take poison hemlock? It is an herb. Your verse is pre-fall from grace. Since the fall, not everything is of benefit for humans.

Well, I wouldn't take hemlock in the doses necessary to kill me, but the plant it's derived from IS USED medically as a sedative. Hemlock is very strong....THC is mild in comparison.

Really, anything taken in quantities outside those designated for safe consumption can kill you---even water!

Oh so true! There was a girl i think it ws a month or two ago died from water poisoning. some radio station had a gimick where they ahd to drink as much water without peeing, and she drank like 2 or 3 gallons in a couple hours. she effectively drowne dherself

[Guest LadyC]

it may be a misdemeanor where you are, but it is a felony offense in nevada.

lol thats rare for that to happen. mostly if whoever is going in front of a judge is stupid.

They plea the charge down to a misdemeanor and pay a fine.

Hmmm.....marijuana is illegal, and prostitution is legal? Sounds rather screwed-up to me.

At least you won't get an STD from smoking pot, and IMO, prostitution does more social harm.

prostitution is legal only in certain parts of the state. it's illegal in clark county or in.... what's the county that reno is in? washoe i think? anyway, LEGAL prostitution and brothels are only found in unpopulated areas, most of them are about 15 miles from the nearest gas station.... and most of them are tiny run down mobile homes lit up with red christmas lights year round. probably more info than you wanted to know!

[Guest LadyC]

Ok who are they hurting. themselves right. The drug isn't going to cause them to commit crimes thats in their heart anyway. they will commit crimes whether or not their doing drugs anyway.

All i am saying is that their doing the crimes and the drugs now as it is with "govt' controls in place. so whats the difference.

i honestly don't know what to say to you. really. you are totally convinced that someone using those drugs hurts only themselves and will never influence a person to do criminal acts that are contrary to their nature.

you're so wrong.

drug addicts hurt those around them in every way, crime or no crime. the families are destroyed. drug addicts commit crimes they would not otherwise commit because they're chasing that next high. an otherwise honest person will steal or kill to get their next fix.

i'm so sorry you don't understand that the drugs chemically alter a person's brain and personality. the person they are OFF drugs is a totally different person than they are ON drugs. i'm just really sorry that you are so unaware of the effects on others. but i REALLY hope you never have to find out first hand.

[rtwo]

I would say that WISE people, though, do not do drugs.

It recently came out that Carl Sagan was a big reefer fan, although we could have taken a clue from the long-time involvement of his wife and many of his friends in the legalization movement.

I think Sagan would fall under the category of "intelligent, but not wise."

[Scarletprayers]

I would say that WISE people, though, do not do drugs.

It recently came out that Carl Sagan was a big reefer fan, although we could have taken a clue from the long-time involvement of his wife and many of his friends in the legalization movement.

I think Sagan would fall under the category of "intelligent, but not wise."

My thinking exactly!

[The Lorax]

Possibly, but who are we to judge?

[DarkNebulaWelder]

I would say that WISE people, though, do not do drugs.

It recently came out that Carl Sagan was a big reefer fan, although we could have taken a clue from the long-time involvement of his wife and many of his friends in the legalization movement.

Well, that's no big surprise....but I wasn't aware that he was involved in legalizing it. I'm a fairly strong admirer of his, and I had no idea!!!

[DarkNebulaWelder]

Methamphetamine causes psychosis. Many addicts require psychiatric treatment for life, and most can't afford it. That means they burden social programs funded by our tax dollars.

....So let's make it legal.

did you know that the success rate of a meth addict staying clean is only 6%? i'd be willing to bet that every one of those who fall into the six percent know God. i honestly do not believe it is possible for a meth addict to stay clean for life without Him.

just a little bit of trivia.

I will just say one thing on this meth issue....LadyC is right. It's VERY hard to stay clean....but not impossible. Once that experience is ingrained in the person's psyche, it is VERY HARD to let go. The person grows very attached.

The reason its hard to get off of is because it makes you feel so alert, so alive. AT the same time the chemicals used to enhance the ephedrine eat you from the inside out.

TRUE....but along with that feeling of "being alive" in one day, comes the stench of what feels like absolute DEATH the next...of course, the user doesn't remember the come-down when it's time for the next high...he just remembers the exhiliaration of that first hit; and as everyone knows, a person RARELY experiences that first-time exhuberance again!!

For some people, the whole process involved in smoking it becomes a real psychological attachment, so that when the person is even AROUND it, it's hard to say no.

Edited May 12, 2007 by DarkNebulaWelder

[DarkNebulaWelder]

I have prayed and sought God's guidance, and the following verse keeps coming to mind:

Gen. 1:29 "And God said 'See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed...'"

As far as I know, marijuana is classified botanically as an herb.

I was looking for outside perspectives on this, and hadn't seen this topic posted here.

Christians who are pro legalization of marijuana always use this verse. Would you also then take poison hemlock? It is an herb. Your verse is pre-fall from grace. Since the fall, not everything is of benefit for humans.

Well, I wouldn't take hemlock in the doses necessary to kill me, but the plant it's derived from IS USED medically as a sedative. Hemlock is very strong....THC is mild in comparison.

Really, anything taken in quantities outside those designated for safe consumption can kill you---even water!

Oh so true! There was a girl i think it ws a month or two ago died from water poisoning. some radio station had a gimick where they ahd to drink as much water without peeing, and she drank like 2 or 3 gallons in a couple hours. she effectively drowne dherself

Ya, I heard about that. That was TRULY a heinous and unnecessary tragedy. It wouldn't occur to the average joe that over-hydrating can be deadly!!!