Legalization of marijuana

[Eliyahuw]

Then you are opening up an entire new market to the "benefit" of self-medication.

I am a advocate for everyone taking control of their own medical care. I 100% for legalization of all drugs, including removing any restrictions to obtaining prescription drugs. the costs associated with 'regulation" drive the cost of drugs out of reach. IT is a racket that you have to pay 150 dollars to get a prescription. I know that if i am in pain, i need a certain medication to stop that pain. If i have a bacterial infection, i need a antibiotic.

Everyone should educate themselves in their own health care.

I guess you wouldn't mind forking out extra taxes and insurance premiums for the increases in the number of rehab clinics and welfare benefits for mental impairment. Not to mention the increases in your automobile and life insurance premiums.

What has auto insurance premiums got to do with healthcare. No i am not that worried about auto insurance premiums. The fact is that if we legalize all drugs, 1. we can take the 250 billion dollars a year that is wasted on the "War on drugs" and take 1/3 of that money and fund any clinic you want. give any addict 1 chance to clean up. next time they go to prison. simple effective and fixes the problem.

IF they were legalized, it would remove the profit from drugs and the dealers wouldn't bother with trying to sell it if it were available over the counter, and taxed.

Its real funny how you can buy your drugs in mexico without a prescription and they don't have a massive drug problem! The reason is there is no profit to be made by the dealers.

People educate themselves on what drug they need for what ails them instead of spending a fortune on doctors visits to get the prescriptions like we do.

[Guest LadyC]

personally i think that there may be some medical benefits to marijuana, and that much of the bad things about it are exaggerated... HOWEVER... i don't see any LEGAL benefits to marijuana, so why change the law now?

ok, i know that will go over like a ton of bricks to those who aren't opposed to pot. so let me go ahead and say this now. i don't smoke pot. i hate pot. pot (literally) makes me violently ill, because i am allergic to it.

i understand all the "get it off the black market/ make it taxable" justifications. in fact, in high school for my government class many moons ago, i wrote a paper using those exact arguments, and surprised the entire class (who thought i'd be in so much trouble!) by getting the highest grade in the class for my assignment. the teacher, who in general didn't like me much, said that i'd provided the most well thought out arguments she'd ever heard.

but the truth of the matter is, making it legal will NOT take it off the streets, will NOT stop drug dealers from making a mint off it, or any of those other things. there is no legally prescribed drug which can't be bought (and frequently is) on the street. there is huge money in selling prescription drugs. making it legal will actually create a whole new legion of drug dealers... the regular-joe who can use his insurance to get it for next-to-nothing and sell it for a 300% profit to the 8th grader next door.

i won't fight it if it ever DOES become legal, but i won't be voting in favor of it either. in fact, i've voted against it every time it has come up in this state since i've lived here, which is either twice or three times. and i've signed countless petitions opposing it even making it on the ballot.

on the other hand, i do think the punishment for posession is absurd. fine them. fine the crap out of them. make them do community service scrubbing grafitti off walls with a toothbrush. but quit putting them in jail when there's not enough room to put violent offenders on a cot. if they get caught driving under the influence of pot, THEN put them in jail for the same length of time as a DUI of alcohol sentence... revoke their drivers license. if they're caught smoking it in public places or around children, throw the book at them. i'm alright with all that. but simple posession shouldn't be allowed to overcrowd our justice system.

JMHO

[Eliyahuw]

so if you legalise it how do you stop children from being affected by "second hand smoke" ? If it is legal then it can be smoked in the open in front of young children, in playparks, in the streets and all the time other innocent people get this potentially lethal drug blown into their faces literally .

Heck its already smoked in front of young children. shoot, the cops don't care what is being done. its a misdemeanor to smoke a joint in public. wow big deal, pay your 50 dollar fine and go down the road.

Might as well make it legal and tax it

[Guest LadyC]

so if you legalise it how do you stop children from being affected by "second hand smoke" ? If it is legal then it can be smoked in the open in front of young children, in playparks, in the streets and all the time other innocent people get this potentially lethal drug blown into their faces literally .

Heck its already smoked in front of young children. shoot, the cops don't care what is being done. its a misdemeanor to smoke a joint in public. wow big deal, pay your 50 dollar fine and go down the road.

Might as well make it legal and tax it

it may be a misdemeanor where you are, but it is a felony offense in nevada.

[Ovedya]

Then you are opening up an entire new market to the "benefit" of self-medication.

I am a advocate for everyone taking control of their own medical care. I 100% for legalization of all drugs, including removing any restrictions to obtaining prescription drugs. the costs associated with 'regulation" drive the cost of drugs out of reach. IT is a racket that you have to pay 150 dollars to get a prescription. I know that if i am in pain, i need a certain medication to stop that pain. If i have a bacterial infection, i need a antibiotic.

Everyone should educate themselves in their own health care.

I guess you wouldn't mind forking out extra taxes and insurance premiums for the increases in the number of rehab clinics and welfare benefits for mental impairment. Not to mention the increases in your automobile and life insurance premiums.

What has auto insurance premiums got to do with healthcare. No i am not that worried about auto insurance premiums. The fact is that if we legalize all drugs, 1. we can take the 250 billion dollars a year that is wasted on the "War on drugs" and take 1/3 of that money and fund any clinic you want. give any addict 1 chance to clean up. next time they go to prison. simple effective and fixes the problem.

IF they were legalized, it would remove the profit from drugs and the dealers wouldn't bother with trying to sell it if it were available over the counter, and taxed.

Its real funny how you can buy your drugs in mexico without a prescription and they don't have a massive drug problem! The reason is there is no profit to be made by the dealers.

People educate themselves on what drug they need for what ails them instead of spending a fortune on doctors visits to get the prescriptions like we do.

When you say that you are 100% for the legalization of all drugs, are you including methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin, and PCP?

I can't take anything that you write seriously if you advocate for the legalization of "all drugs."

[Guest LadyC]

I agree. People can't self-medicate, but doctors should be able to prescribe what will benefit a patient. Is it illegal to prescribe it for medical usage? That may be a dumb question, but I thought it was already allowed in the case of treatment by physicians.. emot-questioned.gif

some states, very few though, have passed medical marijuana laws. those states are in violation of FEDERAL laws though, and while they may be protected from state prosecution, there is no protection from federal prosecution. many doctors have done time for "legally" prescribing pot as medicine.

[Eliyahuw]

Then you are opening up an entire new market to the "benefit" of self-medication.

I am a advocate for everyone taking control of their own medical care. I 100% for legalization of all drugs, including removing any restrictions to obtaining prescription drugs. the costs associated with 'regulation" drive the cost of drugs out of reach. IT is a racket that you have to pay 150 dollars to get a prescription. I know that if i am in pain, i need a certain medication to stop that pain. If i have a bacterial infection, i need a antibiotic.

Everyone should educate themselves in their own health care.

I guess you wouldn't mind forking out extra taxes and insurance premiums for the increases in the number of rehab clinics and welfare benefits for mental impairment. Not to mention the increases in your automobile and life insurance premiums.

What has auto insurance premiums got to do with healthcare. No i am not that worried about auto insurance premiums. The fact is that if we legalize all drugs, 1. we can take the 250 billion dollars a year that is wasted on the "War on drugs" and take 1/3 of that money and fund any clinic you want. give any addict 1 chance to clean up. next time they go to prison. simple effective and fixes the problem.

IF they were legalized, it would remove the profit from drugs and the dealers wouldn't bother with trying to sell it if it were available over the counter, and taxed.

Its real funny how you can buy your drugs in mexico without a prescription and they don't have a massive drug problem! The reason is there is no profit to be made by the dealers.

People educate themselves on what drug they need for what ails them instead of spending a fortune on doctors visits to get the prescriptions like we do.

When you say that you are 100% for the legalization of all drugs, are you including methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin, and PCP?

I can't take anything that you write seriously if you advocate for the legalization of "all drugs."

All drugs. if you make it legal you take its profit out. Drugs are marked up 1,700%

that makes it worth the risk to sell drugs to people. IF you make them legal, tax it, you take away all the profit that these dealers make and it will dry up. Simple economics.

Sure there will be a few junkies, but we have junkies now even with it being illegal.

Drugs are legal in denmark. Didn't end up with millions of junkies either. people that do drugs are going to do them whether the drugs are legal or not. they could care less. if the profit is gone from the drugs, then no one will bother making them to sell. it drys up and goes away.

The ONLY other alternative that will stop drugs is to execute all drug addicts. are you ready to go down that road??

[Eliyahuw]

it may be a misdemeanor where you are, but it is a felony offense in nevada.

lol thats rare for that to happen. mostly if whoever is going in front of a judge is stupid.

They plea the charge down to a misdemeanor and pay a fine.

[Guest LadyC]

eli, have you really, really thought this through? did you see my point in my previous post, that making it legal is NOT going to take drugs off the street?

and you said "all drugs"... in fact, you mentioned something about the user being in control of their own medical care. let's examine this.

there are no health benefits to "all drugs". SOME, maybe, but not all. yet you advocate making it legal for people to buy meth... for what, for medical treatment? the hippocratic oath comes to mind, "first do no harm". have you ever known anyone who uses meth? do you know what the stuff does to the body? do you know how it is made? people may as well be snorting or smoking drano. there is no "up" side to that drug, or to PCP, or ecstacy or acid, or to many other drugs. a few, such as pot or cocaine, CAN be used for medical purposes, and in fact, the medical benefits of coke are greater than any medical benefits of pot, because at least cocaine can cure some opthalmolo-however you spell it, OCCULAR diseases. all pot can do is manage pain while making you stupid and hungry. and there are medications that can do as well or better with pain management.

yet you'd be in favor of legalizing things and letting the GOVERNMENT be in control of running the meth-labs? you want the government to be able to create drugs which KILL?

i don't understand.

no need trying to explain it to me... i don't think there's anything you could say that would make me understand your all-inclusive position.

[Guest LadyC]

it may be a misdemeanor where you are, but it is a felony offense in nevada.

lol thats rare for that to happen. mostly if whoever is going in front of a judge is stupid.

They plea the charge down to a misdemeanor and pay a fine.

really? you live here in nevada and can say that as a fact? i think not. there is no leeway with marijuana here, despite many attempts to legalize it. at this point even a SEED is a felony. now i'm sure it's likely that many cops will simply not make an arrest, but once an arrest is made, there is no plea bargaining it down to a misdemeanor. not here.