Joshua-777 Posted September 9, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 410 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,102 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 522 Days Won: 6 Joined: 10/19/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/07/1984 Share Posted September 9, 2007 pre/mid Where in the bible do you see God pouring out his wrath on his own? God doesn't change his ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massorite Posted September 10, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,973 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/26/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/13/1953 Share Posted September 10, 2007 pre/mid Where in the bible do you see God pouring out his wrath on his own? God doesn't change his ways. [/quote Exodus 32:11-14 Here He didn't pour out His wrath on His own people because Moses got Him to change His mind But He was going to. Numbers 11:33 Here God did pour out His wrath on His own people. Numbers 16:44-50 Here to He poured out His wrath on His own people. Joshua 22:20, 1 Chronicles 27:24, 2 Chronicles 29:8-9 There are many more examples of how God has poured out His wrath on His own people because of their disobedience. And the same goes for us. If we are disobedient we will suffer the conciquinces of our disobediences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua-777 Posted September 11, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 410 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,102 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 522 Days Won: 6 Joined: 10/19/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/07/1984 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Exodus 32:11-14 Here He didn't pour out His wrath on His own people because Moses got Him to change His mind But He was going to. Numbers 11:33 Here God did pour out His wrath on His own people. Numbers 16:44-50 Here to He poured out His wrath on His own people. Joshua 22:20, 1 Chronicles 27:24, 2 Chronicles 29:8-9 There are many more examples of how God has poured out His wrath on His own people because of their disobedience. And the same goes for us. If we are disobedient we will suffer the conciquinces of our disobediences. Because of their disobedience, I should have asked the question, Where in the bible do you see God pouring his wrath on the righteous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massorite Posted September 11, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,973 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/26/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/13/1953 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Exodus 32:11-14 Here He didn't pour out His wrath on His own people because Moses got Him to change His mind But He was going to. Numbers 11:33 Here God did pour out His wrath on His own people. Numbers 16:44-50 Here to He poured out His wrath on His own people. Joshua 22:20, 1 Chronicles 27:24, 2 Chronicles 29:8-9 There are many more examples of how God has poured out His wrath on His own people because of their disobedience. And the same goes for us. If we are disobedient we will suffer the conciquinces of our disobediences. Because of their disobedience, I should have asked the question, Where in the bible do you see God pouring his wrath on the righteous? No where in the bible does God pour out His wrath on the righteous. We should remember that the wrath of God is the "punishment" of God and has nothing to do with tribulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 8, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 7/26/2007 at 6:02 AM, blessed1195 said: Will Hill, Why wouldn't Christians want to be here during the Anti-Christs(Satan's) tribulation? Rapture is a false doctrine that the Anti-Christ will use to convince people (that have gone to church their entire life but not studied GOD's Word) to follow him, that he is Jesus Christ. He will say follow me and you will be raptured out of here. Here's a little lesson on the truth: (Please get your Bible out.) Have you ever read Matt 10:16-23,Matt 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21? These are Jesus' teachings on what we are to do when the Anti Christ comes right before Jesus returns. The anti-christ will come claming to be Jesus Christ. Standing in the holy place claiming to be GOD. Anti in greek = against or instead of (See your Strongs Concordance) First of all please read Exekial 28 to get to know Satan called here, the King of Tyre. Also read Daniel chapter 9 AND 11 to learn more of his reign as Ant-Christ.In Rev 9:4 God instructs Satan that they can only touch the hairs on the heads of the people that do not have the seal of GOD. Also Rev 9:10 the time has been shortened to 5 months. Do you know the seals Mark 13, Rev 6? If you know the truth, when all the so called Christian church goers that haven't studied GOD's Word with understanding ( they listened to fake pastors who did not feed their flock, who begged for money and spoke one verse a week out of GOD's word and spent the rest of the time speaking their own mind.( Jer 17:5-8)) They will follow him-Satan thinking he is Jesus Christ. That is why in Mark 13 and Matt 24 and Matt 10:21,22:your own family will turn you in. They will believe that we won't worship their Christ and out of love, they will present us to Anti-Christ-Satan. That is why Jesus tells us that those who endure to the end will be saved. We have the gospel armor (Ephesians 6). Get it on! IN Rev19:13- please read surrounding verses too-discussing the true Christ's return"Andhe was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood, and his name is called The Word of God". Also read Rev 1: 16 paraphrasing: the word is a two edged sword( that cuts both ways). We who have the seal of GOD know that Satan comes as Anti-Christ at the 6th seal, 6th trump, 6th vial-666 of Rev13:18. We will not take the mark (Rev 13:16,17). We will be delivered up to the Synagogues and we will let the Holy Spirit speak through us. This all happens when we are in the Flesh body. When the true Christ comes, those still alive will be changed to spiritual bodies(1 Cor 15:52). Our True Christ comes at the 7th trump so please don't be deceived. Next, Please read Ezekial 13.. GOD is against those who teach his children to fly to save their souls. Don't worry:1 Peter 4:17 Judgement begins at the household of GOD. These false pastors will get theirs for misleading GOD's people. Check out everything these so called Pastors say in your Bible. In Jeremiah, God discusses these fake pastors.Make them document in GOD's word what they teach you. Remember Matt 4? Satan in his attempts to tempt Jesus twisted scripture in his talks to Jesus. Satan's evil spirit works best from the pulpit. From what I understand,the Rapture or The Any Moment doctrine/theory was started in 1830 by 2 preachers that were with a sick little lady named Margaret McDonald. She felt her dream was evil. The 2 preachers took it and ran with it,trying to use 1 Thess 4 for documentation. Which makes no sense because of the subject in vs.13. Please don't be deceived. We were created for GOD's pleasure- Rev 4:11. Do you please GOD your Father? Read his word with ubderstanding. Get out your KJV Bible along with your Strong's concordance and study! In his service, Blessed1195 Do you have more information about this ? : "From what I understand,the Rapture or The Any Moment doctrine/theory was started in 1830 by 2 preachers that were with a sick little lady named Margaret McDonald. She felt her dream was evil. The 2 preachers took it and ran with it,trying to use 1 Thess 4 for documentation. Which makes no sense because of the subject in vs.13. " (note old thread exposing false doctrine that still is going on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted February 8, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, simplejeff said: Do you have more information about this ? : "From what I understand,the Rapture or The Any Moment doctrine/theory was started in 1830 by 2 preachers that were with a sick little lady named Margaret McDonald. She felt her dream was evil. The 2 preachers took it and ran with it,trying to use 1 Thess 4 for documentation. Which makes no sense because of the subject in vs.13. " (note old thread exposing false doctrine that still is going on) Did you just pull up a thread that is over 10 years old just to say it is still going on? I really hope not ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottA Posted February 8, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 552 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 5/15/2007 at 10:13 AM, Will Hill said: Are we as Christians to be raptured before the tribulation? Are we to be protected then raptured at the middle. Or are we being judged too and not taken until after the whole ordeal? No, on all accounts. Paul has clarified that it is rather "each in his own order." In other words each in their own time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 8, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, OneLight said: Did you just pull up a thread that is over 10 years old just to say it is still going on? I really hope not ... Get real now - haven't you posted repeatedly to various posts "evidence/ give evidence" ? (even when or if God doesn't require it) ..... Well, this thread has "evidence" that many are overlooking, and that scholars and cults may not or just plain don't like, etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted February 8, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 8, 2018 40 minutes ago, simplejeff said: Get real now - haven't you posted repeatedly to various posts "evidence/ give evidence" ? (even when or if God doesn't require it) ..... Well, this thread has "evidence" that many are overlooking, and that scholars and cults may not or just plain don't like, etc etc etc I am real. If you like what is said in this thread, and are posting in another thread, you could easily post a link to this one in the other thread. The member you quoted has not been here since March 28th, 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 8, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, OneLight said: I am real. If you like what is said in this thread, and are posting in another thread, you could easily post a link to this one in the other thread. The member you quoted has not been here since March 28th, 2008. How long has it been since Thessalonians was written ? The truth doesn't change with time, and we are always looking for the truth, no matter how recent or how long ago. There were some software/ server glitches (some posts repeated 4 times/ etc) and I can't read nor post in the other thread as a result. The member I quoted was right , good and true, re his post, according to Scripture. Current posters are not all doing so well, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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