WORDS SHOW FORTH THE SPIRIT OF THE MAN

[Fewarechosen7F]

Hello God-man,

I really am not that easy to offend.

I hope you take my responses as exhortation and correction, rather than trying to pick you apart. I understand that you are seeking enlightenment from God's word.  But I see a couple of things you are saying have been the cause of leading some astray in the past.

Jo 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

God is Spirit. The origin of all things was the Spirit of God. God expressed his Spirit with audible words. In the beginning, God SAID let there be light and there was light. And every word that God spoke in the creation of all things in the world was in agreement with the Spirit (heart, will) of God, and every word that God spoke was the Spirit of God in action. From the moment he created light, until he created man, and on until the fall of man through the word of God coming from the mouth of man, God created all things BY HIS SPIRIT.

The purpose of John

[Ovedya]

Jo 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

God is Spirit. The origin of all things was the Spirit of God. God expressed his Spirit with audible words. In the beginning, God SAID let there be light and there was light. And every word that God spoke in the creation of all things in the world was in agreement with the Spirit (heart, will) of God, and every word that God spoke was the Spirit of God in action. From the moment he created light, until he created man, and on until the fall of man through the word of God coming from the mouth of man, God created all things BY HIS SPIRIT.

You seem to be confusing the person of the Holy Spirit with God the Father. Yes, God spoke forth everything into creation, but He did not speak forth the person of the Holy Spirit, as you seem to be implying here.

The purpose of all four Gospels was to show the divinity of Christ, which Jesus embodied, and therefore the divinity of Jesus through the anointing that he embodied.

This makes no sense. Jesus is the Christ. He is the anointed on of God, to carry out God

[Fewarechosen7F]

-The words of those languages are spirit, because every time man opens his mouth to speak, he sends the spirit that is in the words he speaks out to do a work. The life each man lives each day is in the words he speaks beforehand, because he speaks whatever is in his heart at the moment he is speaking. Life and death are in the power of the tongue, and the power of the tongue is the word on the tongue.

-Few -----I am sorry but this is "NEW-AGE-phylosophy"--doctrine--teaching-----IT is a"perversion" of

-GOD'S WORD---MAN does NOT HAVE a "creative-force"in the words he speaks!!!!MAN--WE--YOU--

-ME-Patsy---calamity--ron--WE do NOT create something every time we speak a word!!!!!Please

-believe me, I am NOT trying to ridicule you or trying to make you look silly...I do NOT like to tell

-anyone what they are teaching is WRONG, but I am WARNED by GOD to sound the alarm when the

-enemy{false-wrong-unBiblical-teachings are being promoted}Ezekiel.33.vss.1.thru.9---A watchman

-GOD-BLESS-ALL-TRUTH-SEEKERS----------------Gary--

Hi Shadow,

Whatsoever we say believing is given to us by the Father. God creats whatsoever we say believing.

WHATSOEVER does not leave ANYTHING out.

The trouble is that most men and women don't take the time to realize that they seldom open their mouths to say anything that they are not believing at the time they say it. And then when they get the opposite of what they thought they prayed for, they want to blame it on the devil coming against them.

The book of James explains every bit of this in detail.

And the tongue is a FIRE, a world of iniquety, so it the tongue among our members, that it defiles the whole body, and SETS ON FIRE the course of nature, and it is set on fire of HELL.

[Fewarechosen7F]

God-man,

After reading over all the posts here again, I've come to the conclusion that you believe one thing, and I believe another, and neither of us will ever convince the other via postings.

So, for the body's sake, I ask that we discontinue this particular discussion.

My belief is first hand belief.

By that I mean that I have sat under no man's doctrine.

Would you mind telling me, is your belief first hand? or second hand under the minitry of another man?

[Guest shadow2b]

-Hi Shadow,

Whatsoever we say believing is given to us by the Father. God creats whatsoever we say believing.

WHATSOEVER does not leave ANYTHING out.

The trouble is that most men and women don't take the time to realize that they seldom open their mouths to say anything that they are not believing at the time they say it. And then when they get the opposite of what they thought they prayed for, they want to blame it on the devil coming against them.

The book of James explains every bit of this in detail.

And the tongue is a FIRE, a world of iniquety, so it the tongue among our members, that it defiles the whole body, and SETS ON FIRE the course of nature, and it is set on fire of HELL.

-Sorry FEW--BUT you are in ERROR---your understanding of scripture{which you say is"first-hand"}

-uhhh??? you "learned" from WHO??first-hand?? SInce you seem to state you received from NO-

-MAN--what you've "learned" just EXACTLY from whom did you receive all your interpretations????

-{GOD creates??}whatsoever we ASK BELIEVING???mmmmmm--hmmmmm--o.k. splain that teaching

-plee-zeee??The only one-person that states HE learned his understanding of the scriptures{from

-a first-hand source} was -Paul,who states HE spent several years learning from GOD Himself--

-GAL.1.vss.6.thru.24-But what Paul did was UNlearn the jewish LAW or rather learned the "true

-meaning"of the law & -that it all "pointed"to JESUS...Then he went to jerusalem to see Peter &

-James the LORDS Brother..But he states clearly that IF any comes preaching ANY-OTHER gospel

-than what Paul has preached-"taught" let them be accursed--GAL.1---SO the clear intention of

-these scriptures is that WE are -to LEARN from the scriptures that are taught by GOD-called-GOD-

-sent-MEN of GOD.WE are to"learn"-from men{qualified by GOD}& from the HOLY-SPIRIT who will

-guide us into all truth-- so for you to -state you learned{what you know--about the scriptures}-

-from a {first-hand-source??}- is just a mite scary-"unless of course your name is -Paul & YOU

-were -caught up to the -third heaven"...2nd.cor.12.----

-SCARY--in that your explanations of scripture are entirely "different" than accepted" & clearly

-understood by scripture interpretating or explaining scripture..

[Rick]

" Howbeit when He the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth...." John 16:13.

A lesson to be learned from the Garden of Eden is that changing God's word to mean something it was never intended to be is dangerous. It led to a fall. Adam and Eve were in a perfect environment and walked in the presence of God, and yet they were decieved concerning God's word. I find that most cults start out the same way. Most take God's Word and ascribe to it a meaning that was not in the original context of what God had said, and lead many astray through their ignorance of the truth. ( And in ignorance I do not insinuate stupidity, only an unlearned understanding. )

They undoubtedly feel that they are correct and all others are wrong in their understanding of what they see. They feel as if God has chosen them only to be the recipient of a divine revelation, and they without rightly dividing the Word of Truth are led astray and lead others astray as well.

Apparently from the posts there is a disagreement over God's Word and its true meaning and interpretation. We can type until our fingers bleed, and still not convince anyone of anything. I have seen many times on these boards where scriptures have been disregarded. All because someone refused to accept the truth. I reasoned within myself many times as to why they could not see the truth. And I think the answer lies in the verse at the top of this post. We cannot change anyone. We can point out error, we can post scriptures etc. , But ultimately, they will never see the truth until the Holy Spirit comes and reveals it to them. He alone can guide them into truth.

When instruction is given, and correction is presented, we have done all that we can. It is then that we need to pray that the Holy Spirit will lead them into the truth. It does not mean that we failed, or that we have given up, but that we acknowldge our limitations, and call on God to bring His truth to bear.

With this in mind,

Lord, I ask that you indeed bring Your Truth to bear in not only this situation , but in the hearts of all who participate in these forum boards as well. I ask this in Jesus's name, that Your Word may be used as a light as you intended, and not a tool of division. Amen!

Rick

[Guest shadow2b]

- " Howbeit when He the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth...." John 16:13.

-A lesson to be learned from the Garden of Eden is that changing God's word to mean something it was never intended to be is dangerous.

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[Guest dove2]

I learned by the Holy Spirit whether he used man or not, it was the Holy Spirit who lead me into all truth.

[Fewarechosen7F]

-Hi Shadow,

Whatsoever we say believing is given to us by the Father. God creats whatsoever we say believing.

WHATSOEVER does not leave ANYTHING out.

The trouble is that most men and women don't take the time to realize that they seldom open their mouths to say anything that they are not believing at the time they say it. And then when they get the opposite of what they thought they prayed for, they want to blame it on the devil coming against them.

The book of James explains every bit of this in detail.

And the tongue is a FIRE, a world of iniquety, so it the tongue among our members, that it defiles the whole body, and SETS ON FIRE the course of nature, and it is set on fire of HELL.

-Sorry FEW--BUT you are in ERROR---your understanding of scripture{which you say is"first-hand"}

-uhhh??? you "learned" from WHO??first-hand?? SInce you seem to state you received from NO-

-MAN--what you've "learned" just EXACTLY from whom did you receive all your interpretations????

-{GOD creates??}whatsoever we ASK BELIEVING???mmmmmm--hmmmmm--o.k. splain that teaching

-plee-zeee??The only one-person that states HE learned his understanding of the scriptures{from

-a first-hand source} was -Paul,who states HE spent several years learning from GOD Himself--

-GAL.1.vss.6.thru.24-But what Paul did was UNlearn the jewish LAW or rather learned the "true

-meaning"of the law & -that it all "pointed"to JESUS...Then he went to jerusalem to see Peter &

-James the LORDS Brother..But he states clearly that IF any comes preaching ANY-OTHER gospel

-than what Paul has preached-"taught" let them be accursed--GAL.1---SO the clear intention of

-these scriptures is that WE are -to LEARN from the scriptures that are taught by GOD-called-GOD-

-sent-MEN of GOD.WE are to"learn"-from men{qualified by GOD}& from the HOLY-SPIRIT who will

-guide us into all truth-- so for you to -state you learned{what you know--about the scriptures}-

-from a {first-hand-source??}- is just a mite scary-"unless of course your name is -Paul & YOU

-were -caught up to the -third heaven"...2nd.cor.12.----

-SCARY--in that your explanations of scripture are entirely "different" than accepted" & clearly

-understood by scripture interpretating or explaining scripture..

First hand - taught the scripture by the Holy Spirit

Second hand - taught by man from scripture.

[Guest shadow2b]

-First hand - taught the scripture by the Holy Spirit

Second hand - taught by man from scripture.

-o.k. have it your own way--just remember---whatsoever ye sow--that shall ye also reap...

-Gal.6.vs.7-----

-Be not deceived;GOD is not mocked;for whatsoever a man soweth,that shall he also reap....