The Lord's Prayer?? Your thoughts??

[MeCajunboy]

"And lead us not into temptation"??

What do you think is meant, when we ask God "not to lead us into temptation?? I will refrain until most have posted their views.

your thoughts please

Cajunboy

[Wingwalker]

Hmmm, I imagine it is a plea to as God the Father to keep us safe or direct our paths in a safe direction.

I do not think it in God's nature to lead us into temptation, but that we follow God where ever he leads us there will be temptaions that we will need His strength to not give in to it, while He is protecting us from evil.

Its past my bedtime and I'm not I even know what I am saying

For the longest time Psalm 23 gave me hard time.

"The Lord is my shephard, I shall not want,

He maketh me to lie in green pastures..........

I always wanted God to be my shephard and the pastures that I am familiar with all have the droppings of animals so I always wondered why God would MAKE me lie there, even when I thought what might be there.

KJV has always been a hard read for me. However, after reading different translations, going back to KJV, it is much easier to understand.

[Bro_Rick]

Hmmm, I imagine it is a plea to as God the Father to keep us safe or direct our paths in a safe direction.

I do not think it in God's nature to lead us into temptation, but that we follow God where ever he leads us there will be temptations that we will need His strength to not give in to it, while He is protecting us from evil.

I know this might be a surprise but Pastors/Ministers get down and need uplifting. HA!

I always find comfort in The Lords Prayer!

Rev.Rick Hill Jr. D.Div

Senior Pastor/ Online Minister

Serenity Through Hope Ministries

[MeCajunboy]

Hmmm, I imagine it is a plea to as God the Father to keep us safe or direct our paths in a safe direction.

I do not think it in God's nature to lead us into temptation, but that we follow God where ever he leads us there will be temptations that we will need His strength to not give in to it, while He is protecting us from evil.

I know this might be a surprise but Pastors/Ministers get down and need uplifting. HA!

I always find comfort in The Lords Prayer!

Rev.Rick Hill Jr. D.Div

Senior Pastor/ Online Minister

Serenity Through Hope Ministries

[Guest]

"Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen."

1 John 5:21

Love Him

Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

James 1:12-15

Master's Harvest

Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

John 15:3-5

"And lead us not into temptation"

Wonderful subject!

I think we could post the Complete Holy Bible to cover the sinful nature of man and the Tender Mercies and Pride-Crushing Grace of God and of His Eternal Goodness to those who trust in Him.

Even before breakfast, your subject set my mind spinning over His Word as one thing lead to another.

You Go Bro!

Post Early, Post Often.

Search Me O God

Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

Psalms 139:23-24

Restorer of My Soul

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Psalms 23:3

Keeper of My Heart

Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:24-25

"I will sing of the mercies of the LORD for ever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations."

Psalms 89:1

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them.

Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

Take Two

Believe

Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

Titus 1:15

Help My Unbelief

And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

Mark 9:24

[Guest sonofdust]

"And lead us not into temptation"??

What do you think is meant, when we ask God "not to lead us into temptation?? I will refrain until most have posted their views.

your thoughts please

Cajunboy

Cajunboy,

The first thing to remember is where temptation comes from in the first place. James 1:14 states that "every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed." So, there is nothing external that tempts us to sin. Our own nature causes our temptation.

The second thing to remember is that God is not tempted and does not tempt any man (James 1:13). The best example from Scripture to answer your question is the exchange that Jesus and Peter had in Luke 22:31 - 34. Jesus simply told Peter that an attack was coming. At the root of the attack was the temptation for Peter to preserve his own life and deny the Lord. Satan had asked God to sift Peter like wheat. Satan wanted to destroy Peter and his faith just like he wants to do to every believer. God gave permission for Satan to attack Peter and the Lord interceded on Peter's behalf that his "faith may not fail."

When we pray "lead us not into temptation" we are essentially asking for the Spirit to be a greater influencer of our behavior than our sinful flesh. However, remember that even Christ was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted. The Spirit was not involved in the tempting, but facilitated the journey to where the temptation would take place.

Finally, the purpose of temptation must be considered. James 1:2 says to consider it pure joy when trials (i.e., temptations) are encountered because the trials produce perseverance.

SON OF DUST

[childofthegreat_i_am]

I always just thought of it as more like: "Lord help us avoid temptation"

[Bro_Rick]

Hmmm, I imagine it is a plea to as God the Father to keep us safe or direct our paths in a safe direction.

I do not think it in God's nature to lead us into temptation, but that we follow God where ever he leads us there will be temptations that we will need His strength to not give in to it, while He is protecting us from evil.

I know this might be a surprise but Pastors/Ministers get down and need uplifting. HA!

I always find comfort in The Lords Prayer!

Rev.Rick Hill Jr. D.Div

Senior Pastor/ Online Minister

Serenity Through Hope Ministries

"Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature." Mark 16:15

Cajunboy:::: Why would you think that might be a surprise? Are you not human just as we are? I've not met one human in all my years of service to God "without sin!"

I know we are all sinners what I was saying is that we are human and sin. The main poin was that we get woredown just like everyone else. I apologize If I sounded wrong.

[MeCajunboy]

Hmmm, I imagine it is a plea to as God the Father to keep us safe or direct our paths in a safe direction.

I do not think it in God's nature to lead us into temptation, but that we follow God where ever he leads us there will be temptations that we will need His strength to not give in to it, while He is protecting us from evil.

I know this might be a surprise but Pastors/Ministers get down and need uplifting. HA!

I always find comfort in The Lords Prayer!

Rev.Rick Hill Jr. D.Div

Senior Pastor/ Online Minister

Serenity Through Hope Ministries

"Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature." Mark 16:15

Cajunboy:::: Why would you think that might be a surprise? Are you not human just as we are? I've not met one human in all my years of service to God "without sin!"

I know we are all sinners what I was saying is that we are human and sin. The main poin was that we get woredown just like everyone else. I apologize If I sounded wrong.

No apologize necessary brother. I found it more interesting that you would think that an associate to any pastor would not beed revitalizing as well. Are we not all but mere humans? I would have to imagine a Pastor/Priest/Preacher would tend to be more affected by life and its' evils, as satan has to realize that once he's taken down or belittled a "leader" many will follow behind him. And many of the Christian Leaders I have noted, when being truthful, will admit that they feel "oppression" more than most, and they feel the expectations placed on them are more demanding than the average layman or associate. "Much is expected from one who demands much."

[MeCajunboy]

"Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen."

1 John 5:21

Love Him

Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

James 1:12-15

Master's Harvest

Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

John 15:3-5

"And lead us not into temptation"

Wonderful subject!

I think we could post the Complete Holy Bible to cover the sinful nature of man and the Tender Mercies and Pride-Crushing Grace of God and of His Eternal Goodness to those who trust in Him.

Even before breakfast, your subject set my mind spinning over His Word as one thing lead to another.

You Go Bro!

Post Early, Post Often.

Search Me O God

Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

Psalms 139:23-24

Restorer of My Soul

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Psalms 23:3

Keeper of My Heart

Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:24-25

"I will sing of the mercies of the LORD for ever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations."

Psalms 89:1

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them.

Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

Take Two

Believe

Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

Titus 1:15

Help My Unbelief

And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

Mark 9:24

Thanks for the kind words Joe, I just believe that there are a huge number of Christian followers here who are being led by God very deliberatly to stand and speak in HIS Name! Christians who have "carried" their crosses (their main crosses) to the finish line and are determined NOT to let satan win his war against man ! Christians who will continue to fight the good fight to their death. I have been able to discern the hundreds here who are safe under the shelter of God's calling and control as we stand in great numbers here! And as long as we pray, speak and stand strong and stay focused in God's Great Name, HE will protect us from the anti-christ out there who finds it extremely difficult to reach any one of us individuals as we "FELLOWSHIP" HERE together In HIS name. We all come from all walks of life and probably have carried every thinkable and unthinkable sin every man of history could be burdoned with with one exception. Through the shedding of the blood of the Lamb of Jesus Christ, we now know that if we do fall into sin again, ever how seldom it might be, we can stand up again, take up our cross, and repent and move on to do God's work as we are all called to do. I can tell you all that as you grow older and I pray (a bit wiser) that falling into satan's traps of sin does become more apparent and evident and by staying nearer to God, you have a stronger armor to fight in defend yourself against the many attempts the enemy can conceal in a day's time. I find it increasingly easier to merely STAY in the confines of God's Word each and every minute of the day by giving thanks and praising HIS name ever so often. And before you know it, you're next to your bedside giving thanks for a wonderful day, that so many unfortunate ones cannot share with you, because YOU ARE SO VERY DIFFERENT than the secular world......WE HAVE GOD WITH US !

BE Blessed and thanks again!

Cajunboy