From Holy Spirit to hypnotism to shamanism in 3 weeks

[None]

She dreamt that she was staying in a holiday cottage with members of the fellowship. There was a common knowledge that every night at 3 a.m. they would suffer a horrific demonic attack. In her dream my daughter sweated in prayer, coming against these attacks in the name of Jesus. And the demons would leave. However, the members of the fellowship (largely led by women because the men appeared to be hovering on the sidelines, just tagging along) would see that the time was nearing 3 a.m. and rise from their beds in panic and say: "Quick, quick, the demons are coming. He have to get down to the River of God" Then they'd rush to this "river" (with my daughter tagging along at a distance) which turned out to be a deep and narrow man-made canal, with high muddy banks. Once there, they'd all jump onto a speed boat and make off down the canal through a barren landscape. But on the way, they'd come across muddy barrages that blocked their way and would have to jump out of the boat and with their bare hands dig away at these barrages, getting filthy in the process. When they returned to the house, it was as though they were drunk, although no alcohol had been consumed. My daughter recalls that in her dream she was so frustrated with their antics because they danced around and shouted and acted drunk, especially the men, and she could get no rest. Night after night the same process was repeated. And my daughter could not understand why they didn't just pray, as she did, to stop these attacks, and why they had to rush to this river/canal.

That dream is the truth about the power of prayer under spiritual warfare and the power fear is given when faith and prayer are absent. It is a redundant cycle, demons are relentless and spiritual warfare will be increased, as in her dream, the closer we get to the end times, as predicted in the Bible.

I feel strongly I should add:

Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Gal 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

Amen!

[methinkshe]

All I will say is that Benny Hinn does NOT hypnotize people...now what I am hearing at your church...part of it does seem kind of wacky...but then again I wasn't there that night so I can't and will NOT comment...

The following quote is attributed to Benny Hinn:

"I use Hypnosis Techniques to make people feel better at my crusades."

See also the following article:

Benny Hinn: Healer or Hypnotist?

Each of us must individually test the spirits to see whether they are of God.

In Jesus,

Ruth

[methinkshe]

She dreamt that she was staying in a holiday cottage with members of the fellowship. There was a common knowledge that every night at 3 a.m. they would suffer a horrific demonic attack. In her dream my daughter sweated in prayer, coming against these attacks in the name of Jesus. And the demons would leave. However, the members of the fellowship (largely led by women because the men appeared to be hovering on the sidelines, just tagging along) would see that the time was nearing 3 a.m. and rise from their beds in panic and say: "Quick, quick, the demons are coming. He have to get down to the River of God" Then they'd rush to this "river" (with my daughter tagging along at a distance) which turned out to be a deep and narrow man-made canal, with high muddy banks. Once there, they'd all jump onto a speed boat and make off down the canal through a barren landscape. But on the way, they'd come across muddy barrages that blocked their way and would have to jump out of the boat and with their bare hands dig away at these barrages, getting filthy in the process. When they returned to the house, it was as though they were drunk, although no alcohol had been consumed. My daughter recalls that in her dream she was so frustrated with their antics because they danced around and shouted and acted drunk, especially the men, and she could get no rest. Night after night the same process was repeated. And my daughter could not understand why they didn't just pray, as she did, to stop these attacks, and why they had to rush to this river/canal.

That dream is the truth about the power of prayer under spiritual warfare and the power fear is given when faith and prayer are absent. It is a redundant cycle, demons are relentless and spiritual warfare will be increased, as in her dream, the closer we get to the end times, as predicted in the Bible.

Thank you for your confirmation, None. That is how I understood the dream, too. The speed-boat and man-made canal spoke very much to me of man-devised techniques. There are no man-devised techniques that we can use against principalities and powers, only prayer and the authority we have in Jesus.

In Jesus,

Ruth

[None]

She dreamt that she was staying in a holiday cottage with members of the fellowship. There was a common knowledge that every night at 3 a.m. they would suffer a horrific demonic attack. In her dream my daughter sweated in prayer, coming against these attacks in the name of Jesus. And the demons would leave. However, the members of the fellowship (largely led by women because the men appeared to be hovering on the sidelines, just tagging along) would see that the time was nearing 3 a.m. and rise from their beds in panic and say: "Quick, quick, the demons are coming. He have to get down to the River of God" Then they'd rush to this "river" (with my daughter tagging along at a distance) which turned out to be a deep and narrow man-made canal, with high muddy banks. Once there, they'd all jump onto a speed boat and make off down the canal through a barren landscape. But on the way, they'd come across muddy barrages that blocked their way and would have to jump out of the boat and with their bare hands dig away at these barrages, getting filthy in the process. When they returned to the house, it was as though they were drunk, although no alcohol had been consumed. My daughter recalls that in her dream she was so frustrated with their antics because they danced around and shouted and acted drunk, especially the men, and she could get no rest. Night after night the same process was repeated. And my daughter could not understand why they didn't just pray, as she did, to stop these attacks, and why they had to rush to this river/canal.

That dream is the truth about the power of prayer under spiritual warfare and the power fear is given when faith and prayer are absent. It is a redundant cycle, demons are relentless and spiritual warfare will be increased, as in her dream, the closer we get to the end times, as predicted in the Bible.

Thank you for your confirmation, None. That is how I understood the dream, too. The speed-boat and man-made canal spoke very much to me of man-devised techniques. There are no man-devised techniques that we can use against principalities and powers, only prayer and the authority we have in Jesus.

In Jesus,

Ruth

Exactly.

[RedeemedByHim]

All I will say is that Benny Hinn does NOT hypnotize people...now what I am hearing at your church...part of it does seem kind of wacky...but then again I wasn't there that night so I can't and will NOT comment...

The following quote is attributed to Benny Hinn:

"I use Hypnosis Techniques to make people feel better at my crusades."

See also the following article:

Benny Hinn: Healer or Hypnotist?

Each of us must individually test the spirits to see whether they are of God.

In Jesus,

Ruth

Ok, I still have yet to see where Benny Hinn himself said that he uses hypnosis...and are you saying that being "slain in the spirit" is wrong??? because if so, go and read your bible some more because people fell under the power of God all the time...

[None]

All I will say is that Benny Hinn does NOT hypnotize people...now what I am hearing at your church...part of it does seem kind of wacky...but then again I wasn't there that night so I can't and will NOT comment...

The following quote is attributed to Benny Hinn:

"I use Hypnosis Techniques to make people feel better at my crusades."

See also the following article:

Benny Hinn: Healer or Hypnotist?

Each of us must individually test the spirits to see whether they are of God.

In Jesus,

Ruth

Ok, I still have yet to see where Benny Hinn himself said that he uses hypnosis...and are you saying that being "slain in the spirit" is wrong??? because if so, go and read your bible some more because people fell under the power of God all the time...

"Slain in the Spirit" is not wrong, FAKING slain in the Spirit is wrong, particulary those causing people to think that's what's going on by using hypnosis techniques.

Stage hypnotists, like successful trial lawyers, have long known their most important task is to carefully pick their subjects-for the stage as for a jury-if they expect to win. Compliance is highly desirable, and to determine this ahead of time, the stage magician will usually give several test suggestions to those who volunteer to come up on the stage. Typically, he may ask the volunteers to clasp their hands together tightly and then suggest that the hands are stuck together so that they can't pull them apart. The stage hypnotist selects the candidates who go along with the suggestion and cannot get their hands apart until he tells them, "Now, it's okay to relax and separate them." If he has too many candidates from the first test, he may then give them a second test by suggesting they cannot open their mouths, move a limb, or open their eyes after closing them. Those volunteers who fail one or more of the tests are sent back to their seats, and those who pass all the tests are kept for the demonstration. Needless to say, not only are they compliant, cooperative, and suggestible, but most have already made up their minds in volunteering to help out and do exactly as they are told.

[Smalcald]

To the OP.

Congregations set doctrine, not pastors. Pastors serve the congregation and the doctrine that congregation holds. It should not change, there would be no reason to change doctrine style or anything else, the Word has not changed ,why would we see our doctrines being tossed to and fro after some sort of "conference", regardless of who is running the conference.

Anytime a pastor comes up with some new direction, new doctrine based on what he believes, this is a major red flag. Pastors should never have that much freedom, they serve you, they serve the doctrine you have already established and that doctrine should not change over the decades. I would hope the elders of your congregation meet to discuss if this pastor needs correction or not, or should even continue in his office.

I would not let my children around him until this is sorted out.

[RedeemedByHim]

All I will say is that Benny Hinn does NOT hypnotize people...now what I am hearing at your church...part of it does seem kind of wacky...but then again I wasn't there that night so I can't and will NOT comment...

The following quote is attributed to Benny Hinn:

"I use Hypnosis Techniques to make people feel better at my crusades."

See also the following article:

Benny Hinn: Healer or Hypnotist?

Each of us must individually test the spirits to see whether they are of God.

In Jesus,

Ruth

Ok, I still have yet to see where Benny Hinn himself said that he uses hypnosis...and are you saying that being "slain in the spirit" is wrong??? because if so, go and read your bible some more because people fell under the power of God all the time...

"Slain in the Spirit" is not wrong, FAKING slain in the Spirit is wrong, particulary those causing people to think that's what's going on by using hypnosis techniques.

Stage hypnotists, like successful trial lawyers, have long known their most important task is to carefully pick their subjects-for the stage as for a jury-if they expect to win. Compliance is highly desirable, and to determine this ahead of time, the stage magician will usually give several test suggestions to those who volunteer to come up on the stage. Typically, he may ask the volunteers to clasp their hands together tightly and then suggest that the hands are stuck together so that they can't pull them apart. The stage hypnotist selects the candidates who go along with the suggestion and cannot get their hands apart until he tells them, "Now, it's okay to relax and separate them." If he has too many candidates from the first test, he may then give them a second test by suggesting they cannot open their mouths, move a limb, or open their eyes after closing them. Those volunteers who fail one or more of the tests are sent back to their seats, and those who pass all the tests are kept for the demonstration. Needless to say, not only are they compliant, cooperative, and suggestible, but most have already made up their minds in volunteering to help out and do exactly as they are told.

Well, I will not accept this about the hypnosis teqniques unless I hear it straight from Benny Hinn's mouth...I am not saying you are wrong or right. I just like facts and not mere heresay....

[None]

You're a wise girl.

[RedeemedByHim]

You're a wise girl.

awww..thanks...I have just been taught that before you accept anything as true or false, you research it out...