UK - row over school "drinking" survey

[buckthesystem]

This is interesting: First they tell us that this is an "anonymous" survey, then "Responses to the more personal questions would help local authorities to "meet the needs of those vulnerable children and young people who need the most support", she added". Now I'm wondering how it would be possible to "meet the needs of those vulnerable children....." if it really is anonymous.

Also, it reminds me of the Nazi penchant for getting the kids to spy on their parents because: "Participants are also asked if they have smoked cigarettes and if "the dad or step dad you live with has a paid job". Sounds to me like "the thin end of the wedge" and then next year it could be "who does your dad or step dad vote for", and depending on the answer, dad might be "missing" when the kid gets home.

I'm probably going to be accused of exaggerating here, but we have to remember that the Nazi party in Germany in the early half of last century did their "best work" by slow, incremental legislation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6712175.stm

Row over school 'drinking' survey

A "big brother" Ofsted survey which asks children as young as 10 if they have been drunk or smoked cigarettes has been criticised by teaching unions.

Ofsted says as the survey of 120,000 children in England aged between 10 and 15 was anonymous - parental permission was not required.

But teaching unions say children can be identified from the full postcodes the survey asks them to provide.

Education inspectors insisted these would not be used to identify children.

The inspection watchdog said the results of its Tellus2 survey - covering home life, health and bullying - would be used to help local authorities assess their success in meeting the needs of children and young people.

'Personal' questions

Pupils in Years 6, 8 and 10 are being asked to take part in the survey, which has a closing date of 14 June.

Questions include: "In the last four weeks, how many times, if any, have you been drunk?"

Just because you have a captive audience doesn't mean you should be abusing that position

NUT

Participants are also asked if they have smoked cigarettes and if "the dad or step dad you live with has a paid job".

A spokeswoman for the National Union of Teachers (NUT) said the union had concerns over both the nature and the purpose of the questions.

"There are some questions that seem quite personal," she told the BBC News website.

"One has to ask why Ofsted needs to know if pupils have had a drink.

"Just because you have a captive audience doesn't mean you should be abusing that position."

Postcode concern

There also seemed to be a lack of assurances about how information was being used, the NUT spokeswoman added.

She said the fact that participants were being asked for their postcodes meant the survey was not anonymous, as Ofsted has claimed.

"A postcode gives you an address," she said.

National Association of Head Teachers' (NAHT) general secretary Mick Brookes said members of his union felt their profession was being undermined by the questionnaire.

"It feels as though big brother is watching over your shoulder the whole time when what we should be doing is taking that away," he said.

He said he knew a number of head teachers who had refused to let their schools take part in the survey.

'Positive' response

An Ofsted spokeswoman said the questionnaire was confidential and that participants would not be identified.

"The postcodes will not be made available outside Ofsted and will be used for analysis purposes only," she added.

(for rest of article go to link)

[Leonard]

The U.S. did stuff like this too. Children who told authorities their parents were smoking marijuana, were held up as great examples of 'heroes' in the papers and so forth.

Truly abominable!

Hey at least YOURS was anonymous....

[Wingwalker]

At first, it never bothered me to fill out so many forms for my children to get enrolled in school. The past few years, though, I started leaving much information blank. They had my mailing address and telephone number. That was all the information that I would release to them. And signatures were left to a minimum.

After attending school to become a teacher, and learning about forms policies and information was astounding. All in the name of a free and safe education.

[apothanein kerdos]

I had to do these in high school.

They were anonymous - no post code was given or anything. Nothing to trace it back to the student.

Makes me wonder why they couldn't do that with these students.

[rtwo]

I had to do these in high school.

They were anonymous - no post code was given or anything. Nothing to trace it back to the student.

Makes me wonder why they couldn't do that with these students.

Because that doesn't mesh well with the "big brother" mentality of the UK government.