Scientific Terminology

[undone]

Macroevolution

The major evolutionary transition from one type of organism to another occurring at the level of the species and higher taxa, the notion that birds evolved from carnivorous theropods.

[undone]

HE

Hoyle the expert mathematician understood the absurdity of the odds that life arose from non-life and evolved into the complexities seen in nature today through naturalistic means. Darwinists on the other hand believe by faith (not through scientific discovery) that whatever they can imagine in their minds no matter how mathematically impossible can be accomplished over

[undone]

Horizon, this does appear to addressing abiogenesis, not macro-evolution. Am I missing something here? Please explain.

Undone, he can't explain it because Hoyle was a discredited crank. Read my explanation, or I can explain it to you in more general terms. Its harder to grasp if you have not had a statistics course (I had two), but its easy to explain. I can even give you a simple experiment to do to prove it.

Myco, not to get off topic, but do you support abiogenesis theories? I'm hoping for a breif answer here. Otherwise, let's start another thread.

My position is that abiogenesis is theorectical with lots of intriguing ideas and information, but nothing concrete. So I don't reject it, but don't have enough data to accept it as true. That's in contrast to evolution, which is factual.

You're right, I haven't had statistics yet. It's on the list though. If not for me, you may want to explain it for lurkers and others too afraid to ask. You might start another thread. I was really hoping this one would be reserved for generally accepted definitions and descriptions of terms. I suppose that could be another addition by posting a description of what you are talking about. Thanks, Undone

[ted]

HE

Hoyle the expert mathematician understood the absurdity of the odds that life arose from non-life and evolved into the complexities seen in nature today through naturalistic means. Darwinists on the other hand believe by faith (not through scientific discovery) that whatever they can imagine in their minds no matter how mathematically impossible can be accomplished over

[The Lorax]

Kent Hovind is a young-earth creationist who gives frequent public lectures on evolution and creationism.

True, but "gives" should be in past tense. He's spending the next decade in jail for tax evasion. I've seen some of his debates and while I was impressed by his public speaking I was underwhelmed by its scientific content. His uninformed claims put him at odds with most IDers and many creationists as well.

[undone]

I'm a little frustrated in the results of this thread. I was hoping we could settle on some commonly used terms and ideas that are used here in the apologetics forum. This is so that debates/discussions don't get bogged down or off track due to some simple misunderstandings. If you disagree with a definition/description, fine, post your alternative and we'll try to settle on what's the best one.

If we can't use this thread in the way it was intended, I'm not sure it's of any real use to anyone.

[Guest]

I'm a little frustrated in the results of this thread. I was hoping we could settle on some commonly used terms and ideas that are used here in the apologetics forum. This is so that debates/discussions don't get bogged down or off track due to some simple misunderstandings. If you disagree with a definition/description, fine, post your alternative and we'll try to settle on what's the best one.

If we can't use this thread in the way it was intended, I'm not sure it's of any real use to anyone.

Take Heart Dear Brother

God Laughs

He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Psalms 2:4

Jesus Comes

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

Psalms 2:6

Kiss The KING

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Psalms 2:12

Lord Of Time

The Creator

And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

Revelation 10:6

Praise Ye The LORD

Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the name of the LORD; praise him, O ye servants of the LORD.

Ye that stand in the house of the LORD, in the courts of the house of our God,

Praise the LORD; for the LORD is good: sing praises unto his name; for it is pleasant.

For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.

For I know that the LORD is great, and that our Lord is above all gods.

Whatsoever the LORD pleased, that did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places.

He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings for the rain; he bringeth the wind out of his treasuries.

Psalms 135:1-7

God Says "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

Man Says "Impossible, It Was Septillions And Septillions Of Years Ago And Once Upon A Time X Time And A Half To Be Precise, There Was A Super Dot The Size Of A Atom And It Went Boom And Then There Was The Heavens And The Earth Naturally And Oh Are We So Scientific And So Much Smarter Than God And ....."

Who To Believe ....

[undone]

I'm a little frustrated in the results of this thread. I was hoping we could settle on some commonly used terms and ideas that are used here in the apologetics forum. This is so that debates/discussions don't get bogged down or off track due to some simple misunderstandings. If you disagree with a definition/description, fine, post your alternative and we'll try to settle on what's the best one.

If we can't use this thread in the way it was intended, I'm not sure it's of any real use to anyone.

Take Heart Dear Brother

God Laughs

He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Psalms 2:4

Jesus Comes

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

Psalms 2:6

Kiss The KING

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Psalms 2:12

Lord Of Time

The Creator

And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

Revelation 10:6

Praise Ye The LORD

Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the name of the LORD; praise him, O ye servants of the LORD.

Ye that stand in the house of the LORD, in the courts of the house of our God,

Praise the LORD; for the LORD is good: sing praises unto his name; for it is pleasant.

For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.

For I know that the LORD is great, and that our Lord is above all gods.

Whatsoever the LORD pleased, that did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places.

He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings for the rain; he bringeth the wind out of his treasuries.

Psalms 135:1-7

God Says "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

Man Says "Impossible, It Was Septillions And Septillions Of Years Ago And Once Upon A Time X Time And A Half To Be Precise, There Was A Super Dot The Size Of A Atom And It Went Boom And Then There Was The Heavens And The Earth Naturally And Oh Are We So Scientific And So Much Smarter Than God And ....."

Who To Believe ....

By the way, this is off topic too!

[The Lorax]

That's a solid definition.

[undone]

undone

I'm a little frustrated in the results of this thread. I was hoping we could settle on some commonly used terms and ideas that are used here in the apologetics forum. This is so that debates/discussions don't get bogged down or off track due to some simple misunderstandings. If you disagree with a definition/description, fine, post your alternative and we'll try to settle on what's the best one.

Well that was bound to be a difficult task. How do you get two people to agree on a definition of abiogenesis when one believes it is unscientific and another believes it to be an unconfirmed (but scientific) hypothesis?

BTW, my definition of abiogenesis is:

A group of competing, unconfirmed hypotheses pertaining to the origins of life. More specifically, it is the idea that simple life arose naturally over a long period of time from non-living chemicals. The exact mechanisms of this process are still largely unknown and are the subject of the members of the group. It is not to be confused with evolution.

Edit: Post deleted - question off topic...