Divorce of a believer

[PetriFB]

Divorce of believer

Couple questions divides today powerfully of believers and those things are divorce of believer and remarry. I have study this thing many years, prayed and studied, so that I could advise believers on this very painful area. Many believer are in deep wound with this matter. I have by myself, married I have never experienced divorce, but this painful matter touches heart of many peoples, and so that's why I have spend very much my time, to get find out the Bible teaching about divorce and remarry. Next I share with you my research results.

The divorce and remarry

Matthew 19:3-12

The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother

[irishcowboy]

Greetings.......

just for a bit of information, the Christian world of divorce is no differant then the secular world of divorce ( about 50 % )

most ( if not all ) Christians know what the Bible says on the subject of divorce and also on divorce and remarriage, they have to struggle and live with this every day.......

there are some churches that a divorced person is lower then dirt........... the Child murdering Drug dealer has more rights in some churches then a believer that has been divorced, and exspecially if the divorcee has remarried......

they say that a child molester can also repent of their sins of not only adultry, but of harming a child, the sick acts this person commits is forgivible and this person can also receive higher standing in a church body, to include pastor, elder, deacon...... as long as they have repented... but not a divorcee.... no way..... only if they go back to their first spouse...... or unless death over comes the first spouse.......

does that mean instead of divorcing , we should murder our first spouse? would be more welcome in some churches.....

what about remaining totally single and then going around and committing adultry until we are all wore out and have a dozen kids illigitimatly, but we have not married, we would be more welcome doing this then if we had divorced and remarried.......

come now....

what sin can God not forgive?

the reason I bring this up, is every time that some one starts ranking sins........ divorce or divorce & remarry seem to always be one that is the worst.... and the attempt at re-condemning those that are starts again...

and again, and again.......

a church denomination will allow a homosexual to be a pastor or priest, but not a divorcee......

a church denomination will allow a murderer to be a pastor, but not a divorcee.....

a church denomination will allow a thief to be a pastor but not a divorcee.....

a church denomination will allow some one that has used the Lords name in vain to be pastor but not a divorcee....

WHY>???????????/

a church denomination will take a drug dealer and make them a pastor, but dont even think about taking to the divorcee about even becoming a teacher or elder or or or or or .... really , we dont want them in our church.......

just like we dont want the man that dont have a pair of shoes with out holes in them or we dont want the people that want to wear blue jeans and tee shirts to church, oh, cant let those people in with long hair, they almost as low as the divorcee......

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do you know how many times a divorcee has had this crammed down their throuts??????

SATAN, I COMMAND YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS, THE SON OF GOD, TO GET OUT OF HERE AND LEAVE THESE PEOPLE ALONE, THEY DO NOT BELONG TO YOU, THEY BELONG TO THE LORD JESUS, THE CHRIST. THEY HAVE REPENTED OF THEIR DOINGS, THEY HAVE TURNED AWAY FROM YOU NOT TO RETURN, YOU HAVE NO MORE TO DO WITH THEM, DEPART, THEY WILL NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN, THEY WILL NOT LEAVE THEIR CURRENT SPOUSE AND REMARRY AGAIN FOR THAT WOULD ALSO BE A SIN...... DEPART SATAN, LEAVE THESE CHILDREN OF GOD ALONE.........

Dont you think that these folks that have been divorced and remarried know what has happened? where they stand? if not, continue to trod them under.... for if you honestly feel they are doomed to hell, then continue on....

and you will see each and every church in the united states dwendle by at least 50 %

wow, the church is dying fast now..... the church in the USA is on a decline over all.... and if you take 50% of what is left away.... you will start seeing many doors closing...... and fast......

go ahead, condemn each and every person to hell that has divorced, or divorced and remarried........

go on.... do it.... and we will see you there also......

good day....

mike

[PetriFB]

May God bless you Mike.........

[irishcowboy]

God has already blessed me more then you can ever know........

for some, divorce and remarriage is almost (if not ) as bad as balsphemy of the Holy Spirit....

I am not in argument about marriage being a sacred order, and I am not trying to justify my self or anyone else...... there are many aspects of a divorce that most people just "AssUMe" to have been...... as in one person, spreading rumors that one spouse dumped the other for some one they met on the internet, and this getting thru the grapevine back to the children..... it is also written we are not to be spreading rumors..... ( these are "church goers" that are spreading the rumors )

my advise is, if you dont know what the blazes happened, keep your nose and tongue out of it..... if it dont concern a person then they need to keep their nose out of it...... you see, as a " divorcee" i have been the target of a guilt flinging party ever since the papers have been filed..... even thou I was the only one of us two to seek counsel before, during and after, trying to get my then wife to also go....... during the counsling ( "Christian " counslers ) it was pointed out every thing that I was at fault with, with no assistance on what to do to head in the right direction....... or to get back on track..... guilt laying, fault finding..... good christian stuff.....pile on the guilt, for every fault we can find......

if a man has been doing drugs most his life, sold drugs to kids ( who have died )and is sitting on a tower with a high powered rifle, shooting at anything that moves,

keeping police officers pinned down for a good long while, and repents...... he is ok to be a leader in the church...... but what about the guy that gets divorced after they was saved???? hmmmm

how many people that are "CHRISTIAN" have not had a single sin since they have been saved???? how many pastors have not had a single sin since they have been a pastor???? how many have even repeated the same sin over again since they have been saved or have been a leader in the church?????

most every one places divorce and remarriage at the top of the list right under blasphemy of the Holy Spirit..... why???? is Divorce and remarriage an unforgivible sin?

how many other forms of adultry have you found??? or you know of??????

what about the woman at the well????? what was told her???? she had five husbands, and was living with a man that was not her husband, or privious husband....

what did Jesus say to her???? Jesus used her to evangelize the entire town...... he done told her that her sins were forgiven........ and to go and sin no more

gee wizz.....

what about the men that was ready to stone the adultress????? the townsmen??? what did Jesus say to all of them????

becareful with the stone that is in the mouth ( the tongue ) it is a very powerful stone, and you know, that stone can ruin peoples lives even more then they are already hurt.... people are tryingto heal, trying to overcome the guilt, they have repented and turned from their ways, and are starting over, and dont need to have it continuously brought back up...

To understand the church

[papasangel]

In our church. ( I am a Mennonite) we believe that marriage is till death parts us. That is not to say there are not some divorces in our church they are mostly from those who have come from other denominations and therefore are a bit more liberal about divorce. But if one of our bretheren and sister divorce and remarries then we consider the offender to be an adulterer/ adultress according to whom does the remarrying. That second marriage while the origional spouse is still alive is not reconized by the bretheren. I know that sounds harsh but God commands that when a man and wofe become one it is till death parts us. Not a piece of paper saying the union is dissolved.

Today marriage does not seem to hold the values it held in the past. People seem to marry in the heat of passion and when that passion wanes they find they have no common ground together.

I found my husband while serving in the Navy. I was not mennonite then nor was he. We knew each other about 3 to 4 months before we got married. But before we made the committment we became friends and so have common ground together. The chaplain who married us gave us 6 months before we would divorce. It will be 25 years this August and we are still committed to each other (or is it we should be committed?) That I am told is not the norm.

While arranged marriages may still happen in some places we place emphasis on waiting on the Lord. A mennonite courtship is a "hands off" courtship that lasts about two years before committing to marriage. I believe that is why our divorce rate is so low.

And on the lighter side this has been heard many times.

Murder maybe, but divorce never!

[Guest shadow2b]

-Murder maybe, but divorce never!

werds ta live? by maybe?

[Adstar]

God bless you PetriFB you have given the Word of God clearly. It is up to each individual how they react to it.

come now....

what sin can God not forgive?

A sin one is unrepentant for.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[Paul]

20 years ago, my wife, a nonChristian, left me, committed adultery and divorced me, I did not choose and was willing to forgive her, but she would not, she remarried about six months later. 17 years ago, God lead my true helpmate to me, we, together, have been serving the Lord. Last year, God called me to preach his word, there are people and Churches that will not except me, but they did not call me,,,God did. I do not attemept to change their minds, that is not my job, I am called to preach Gods word.........God Bless all

[PetriFB]

God bless you PetriFB you have given the Word of God clearly.  It is up to each individual how they react to it.

come now....

what sin can God not forgive?

A sin one is unrepentant for.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Adstar:

Yeah, it's up up to each person how they react to word of God.

Some people put the teaching of the word of God to be too tight, whereby in the same way they choke a life of a man to be sickly legalist life without real love and grace and truth of God.. Some allow all things in other words they stump under their feet word of God, neither concerns from its announcement anything.

Healthy and ripe belief is such kind, in which is believed thus as has been written to the word of God . We have to grow towards this healthy belief. Let's pray the grace of God each other, so that our belief would be healthy belief, which is such kind of belief, which stretches out according to that as has been written to the word of God.

[PetriFB]

20 years ago, my wife, a nonChristian, left me, committed adultery and divorced me, I did not choose and was willing to forgive her, but she would not, she remarried about six months later. 17 years ago, God lead my true helpmate to me, we, together, have been serving the Lord. Last year, God called me to preach his word, there are people and Churches that will not except me, but they did not call me,,,God did. I do not attemept to change their minds, that is not my job, I am called to preach Gods word.........God Bless all

Pastor Paul:

Jesus is above of all people traditions and doctrines. Jesus has give the rights for remarry, if adultery taken place as we have examined in the beginning of this subject.

Be free to live, where you are now and eagerly seek the will of God in your life. Matthew 19:9 is guarantee for your situation. Don't let peoples opinino depressed to you. This world is full of accuser's and main accuser is a Satan, who want destroy and pick apart of us, but we have the Comforter and Jesus Christ is our Mediator, who will cleanse us from all sin, after we confess to Him our sins.

Paul: be blessed in the name of Lord Jesus Christ.