georgesbluegirl Posted June 29, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,234 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/17/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1987 Share Posted June 29, 2007 That may be what you think of our candidates, but I - and many other Democrats - beg to differ. Though "the spouse" is an issue with Hillary, it's belittling to keep writing her off as just the wife of Bill, regardless of how you feel about her. Edwards isn't my favorite, but there's much more to him than the conservative spinmeisters who keep playing clips of him fixing his hair would like you to think. Al Gore, don't even get me started. He needs to get in on this race. And Obama "who?" Come on. He's hardly an unknown. He may have burst into the spotlight relatively recently, but he's pretty well grounded. And have you heard the man speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senerhu Posted June 29, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/23/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2007 I am not a big fan of Hillary. But in a nutshell, I think this is why people that like her think she would do a better job. In the Clinton years, by any measure, things were going better than they are now. That is what people are looking for again. problem is only 48% of the people even like her, less than that will ultimately vote for her... she's a sinking ship for the libs and/or dems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinM Posted June 29, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,512 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 625 Days Won: 10 Joined: 04/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1979 Share Posted June 29, 2007 If you are a Democrat in, be it moderate or even liberal, can you explain for the populace ("especially a party of the people") - why 'If things ARE TRULY SO BAD', why she is the BEST alternative among everyone else in the country that could run?? . . .cricket. . .cricket. . .cricket JustinM, if you can't respond with a Christian-like answer, then why respond at all? And to all the others here that responded to my post, thanks so much. I wasn't making fun of your post Marlee. This morning I saw that it had been several hours since anyone responded, I thought that was funny, because it looked as though no one could come up with a good enough reason to support her. As of yet, her supporters have failed to come up with a good enough/strong enough reason why she should be the next President. We need a President that both sides of the country can come together to support. The bipartisan rift in this country is no good and if we aren't careful there will be another civil war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgesbluegirl Posted June 29, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,234 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/17/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1987 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I agree that she'd be a tougher sell because of all her negative associations. But I do like a lot of what she says. The bottom line is that she's not "unelectable." None of the major Dem candidates are, which puts the party in a good place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnie Posted June 29, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2007 And Obama "who?" Come on. He's hardly an unknown. He may have burst into the spotlight relatively recently, but he's pretty well grounded. And have you heard the man speak? Yes. Obama who? He is known, but his stand on most issues is not. That's what is so troubling. I maintain that if he were white, we wouldn't be having this conversation. He is in the the race because of his race. I don't write Hilary off as the wife of Bill. I write her off because she is unelectable. BUT...I never underestimate the inanity of the American voter. This goes for the GOP, too, by the way. Their isn't one in the current crop of candidates that piques my interest. I like Mitt, but the more he speaks, the less inspiring he becomes. But, that's an issue for another time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmh Posted June 29, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,790 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/21/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/15/1968 Share Posted June 29, 2007 If you don't vote for me for president then vote for Garfield the Cat. Neither one of us can't be as bad as the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undone Posted June 29, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 45 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 819 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2007 Hillary was already President. She needs to move on and let someone else serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnie Posted June 29, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2007 More than half of Americans won't vote for Clinton, poll shows More than half of Americans say they wouldn't consider voting for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for president if she becomes the Democratic nominee, according to a new national poll made available to McClatchy Newspapers and NBC News. The poll by Mason-Dixon Polling and Research found that 52 percent of Americans wouldn't consider voting for Clinton, D-N.Y. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a Republican, was second in the can't-stand-'em category, with 46 percent saying they wouldn't consider voting for him. Clinton has long been considered a politically polarizing figure who would be a tough sell to some voters, especially many men, but also Clinton-haters of both genders. Thursday's survey provides a snapshot of the challenges she faces, according to Larry Harris, a Mason-Dixon principal. "Hillary's carrying a lot of baggage," he said. "She's the only one that has a majority who say they can't vote for her." Clinton rang up high negatives across the board, with 60 percent of independents, 56 percent of men, 47 percent of women and 88 percent of Republicans saying they wouldn't consider voting for her. Romney struggled most with women: 50.9 percent said they wouldn't consider voting for him. "It's the flip-flop of Hillary," Harris said of Romney. "One could suppose it's the Mormon issue -- we didn't ask follow-up questions -- but his religion is an issue." On name recognition, Clinton also led the 2008 presidential pack in voter disapproval, with 42 percent saying they recognized her name and were unfavorable toward her, versus 39 percent favorable. That gave her a double-digit lead in that bad-news category over Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, a Democrat. They each had 28 percent unfavorable recognition. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani had the highest favorable recognition at 43 percent, with Clinton close behind at 39 percent. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was third at 36 percent, followed by McCain at 33 percent and Edwards at 32 percent. McCain rang up the highest favorable rating among independent voters with 39.4 percent, followed by Giuliani with 37.3 percent. Edwards scored well with independents, too, with 31.1 percent favorable; Obama had 28 percent favorable. The Mason-Dixon survey was conducted June 23-25 with 625 likely general-election voters. It has an error margin of plus or minus 4 percentage points. LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted June 29, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2007 Hillary was already President. She needs to move on and let someone else serve. Shalom, My sentiments exactly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat8585 Posted June 29, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,360 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 7,866 Content Per Day: 1.24 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/18/1946 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Hillary was already President. She needs to move on and let someone else serve. Good one! And true. Obama hasn't even served one full senate term, has he? How experienced can he be? I don't think Edwards will be in much longer. I'd love to see Algore get in again, so I could see him be defeated again, either in the primary or the election. How can any Christian support a candidate who is pro-abortion, up to the moment of birth, and even after the birth has begun??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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