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[senerhu]

your timeline and his are not the same. Yours would be open ended and could take decades to accomplish. He sounds like it is a simple matter of just going out there and 'rounding em up'...

WHy isn't it simple. they can track a cow that enters the US and find every offspring it has if it comes down with mad cow. why not illegals.

shrug, everytime i have to go for a job i have to fill out a I9 or something like that.

We find them every day, yet they ignore them and let them go. i say when they go to the hospital to get medical treatment, treat them, identify them and if their illegal, pack them up as soon as their treated along with anyone that is with them that is illegal and ship them out.

I totally agree. The problem is we don't do that with illegals. We aren't even allowed to find out if they are illegal. And we do just turn a blind eye when we do find them. It's so wrong, and it needs to be changed.

kat, we don't even know when the vast majority of those illegals even come in...

why does it matter when they come in? the fact is that they are in and are illegal. arrest them, put them on a one way transport out of the country or lock them up since their breaking the law.

only in America do we reward criminals with free living! sheesh

because unlike your cow example where they come in legally and are monitored, illegals sneek in and cannot be monitored until they are either captured, apply for something from the governmentor hospitalized...otherwise this government has no idea who's here and because of that, they simply con't go out there and 'round them up'...

[senerhu]

your timeline and his are not the same. Yours would be open ended and could take decades to accomplish. He sounds like it is a simple matter of just going out there and 'rounding em up'...

WHy isn't it simple. they can track a cow that enters the US and find every offspring it has if it comes down with mad cow. why not illegals.

shrug, everytime i have to go for a job i have to fill out a I9 or something like that.

We find them every day, yet they ignore them and let them go. i say when they go to the hospital to get medical treatment, treat them, identify them and if their illegal, pack them up as soon as their treated along with anyone that is with them that is illegal and ship them out.

Well, for one thing the cows you are referring to come in legally...I'm sorry, but I believe you are talking apples and oranges in your example Eliyahuw...

the point is that if the government who screws up everything they touch, can track a cow and its offspring, don't you think they can track a illegal?

like i pointed out before, treat them, while treating them in a hospital identify them and if their not citizens and have no business being here, pack them up and ship them directly from the hospital to the border.

As it is now, the illegals get foodstamps, medicaid, free housing, free transportation, and get to work without paying taxes.

it shouldn't be too hard to find them, i can walk down the street and find a dozen at any given moment.

This is not true, I believe the vast majority of the illegals are leading basically an anonymous life here, not dependent on anything or anybody...

[forrestkc]

This is not true, I believe the vast majority of the illegals are leading basically an anonymous life here, not dependent on anything or anybody...

Very true.

[Eliyahuw]

This is not true, I believe the vast majority of the illegals are leading basically an anonymous life here, not dependent on anything or anybody...

Very true.

maybe they are andmaybe they aren't but i can go down to any government housing area around here and 85% are mexicans. now to come into this country as a immigrant, you are supposed to have employment and be able to take care of yourself and NOT be a burden on the society. why are they still here if they aren't following the conditions set forth for them to come here.

You don't see other immigrants using the taxpayor to live. I have some very good friends from india that immigrated here and they take care of themselves, with no govt assistance of any kind, and all their friends do the same. they provide for themselves and GASP actually are productive members of society.

its not bigoted nor racist to recognize a major problem in a particular segement of society and address the problem especially when the illegal immigration is a MAJOR problem in that segment of society.