Doctrine Doesn't Matter Examined

[Blood Stained Soul]

I have tossed out pleanty of scripture but this cat blows it off by saying you have to look at the whole Bible, but throws out a few verses and all a sudden its doctrine when as Yod has already pointed out...twisted and misinterpreted...and all this cat can focus on is baptism...well this is not a recruiter sight cat...so wuit trying to slam it down our throats please. Every thread your on turns into baptism debates.... :oww:

[Nebuchadnezza10]

You guys seem to love dodging the bible verses that i have put up. Are you not going to give me an explanation?

Also I have been focusing on Baptism so much because it is a topic of which everyone believes is not necessary. There is not point on me focusing on a topic of having to believe to be saved because everyone knows that you have to have to have that step to be saved.

So answer the bible verses and stop being so narky with your comments.

[nebula]

It is because your interpretation of these verses has gone out of hand.

I've seen this before - someone has all these verses to make the statement that to truly be saved you have to be in agreement on everything - and then he threw in that verse: "He who believes God hears us."

As if, to be saved, the way of his church was the only way.

Rule #1 of what makes for a cult.

Been there, done that!

[Nebuchadnezza10]

Please do correct MY interpretation then.

[GymRose]

I think I missed a page and did not see which church Nebuc 10 goes to. I am now caught up.

I hate to think of this going on in my beloved Australia. :down: :down:

I have been to Churches of Christ here in Adelaide and I can assure you not all of them are like the one Nebuc 10 is going to. The one I have been to is very much along the same lines as Baptist, Salvos, AOG....etc in our community and all the Pastors from these churches support one another, pray with one another and for one another, for the greater good of the community. Salvos do not believe Baptism is nessisary, however if someone in that congrigation is lead to do so they are free to be baptised in another church. The same goes for communion. Some churches have it weekly, some monthly some not even that often and I have know people to partake in communion in another church because that is what they have felt to do. I suppose like visiting relitives for a meal, cause aren't we related, aren't we brothers and sisters in Christ and no matter our small differences we are family and should share together.

Most definetly not all COC are the same.

[Nebuchadnezza10]

I go to a coC but as a said there are many kind both very liberal and some over conservative, none the less i am part of the church of the bible.

Again you

[Blood Stained Soul]

I go to a coC but as a said there are many kind both very liberal and some over conservative, none the less i am part of the church of the bible.

Again you

[Blood Stained Soul]

I think God-Man or george himself needs to come into these threads and deal with this situation....maybe lock these threads up since they are getting nowhere cause you cannot have a one sided discussion...

[Nebuchadnezza10]

Sounds good. I will gladly answer your questions.

So show me that doctrine does not matter and that it does not matter what church you go to.

This is a good idea. Thanx Blood Stained Soul

[Guest Bride of Christ]

Sounds like you need to re-read the thread from the beginning. This was already discussed in the beginning of this thread....before you changed the flow of the thread to baptism.

It has already been said by just about everyone here that denominations don't matter.....church buildings don't matter. What matters is that whatever Church you DO go to teaches the WHOLE Word of GOD....not just bits and pieces. WE are the Church....buildings don't really matter....you can gather in a field and have Church right there.

As was said by my husband, Blood Stained Soul, people HAVE addressed your EVERY question....WITH Scripture. You refuse to acknowledge anything that goes against your teaching. That's fine....I guess. Just don't demand we refute what you say with Scripture when it's already been done.

The point of a Bible Study is not just to teach....it's to learn also. You seem to be trying to do all the teaching....yet no learning. Several people have tried to point out the errors of your teaching (with Scripture, might I add) and you don't want to hear it one bit. Why? Well, it seems that you think that you have been taught ) is the only right way. That's sad, dude.

You kept saying that you have absolutely no problem admitting you are wrong if we prove you wrong. It has been done over and over and over again. Yet, you are standing firm that your way is the only way.

You say you are very learned in the Bible....and I can see that you are. Where's the humility though? It seems pride is rearing it's ugly head. MY way is the ONLY way kind of stuff is prideful. You can think you know all the Scripture you want....but without the understanding of God of HIS Holy Word, what good is it? There are tons of people who are unsaved and don't believe in God or Jesus in this world...yet you know what? They know the Bible better than you and I put together. They are very learned in the Bible too. Yet they lack true understanding.

You keep telling us to prove you wrong. You keep saying to read the WHOLE Bible and not just take bits and pieces of the Scripture to make a doctrine....that is exactly what you are doing though....taking bits and pieces to form your doctrine. The Scriptures you are quoting, you are taking out of context....you aren't grasping the full understanding of them. You're just focusing in on those Scriptures only. Why? I would guess it's because they fit around your beliefs. Why don't you take your own advice and read the WHOLE text first. Then you'll understand that one Scripture better.

My advice to you....go back to these Scriptures that you have posted that are a huge part of your theology and read the whole chapter that they are in. Instead of us trying to prove you wrong (which we have again and again)....why don't you attempt to prove yourself right....or prove that WE are wrong.

I'm not saying we are anyone. We aren't. No offense, but you aren't either. When you have more than 5 people telling you that you are not accurate.....it just seems that would make you think a little and maybe re-examine your thinking concerning all of this.

Don't get so defensive. Believe it or not, we are here to help you. To guide you to a better understanding. We are not here to tear you down...we are here to help build you up. We see where you err and we would like to help you out. But you have to be willing to hear us. Quit refusing to hear us....quit being so stubborn, for lack of a better word.....conversations are not good if they are one-sided....