Throwing out the Old Testament

[Blood Stained Soul]

[Ovedya]

I don't think anyone here has said that the Old Testament is invalid. But in according to the New Testament we are under a new covenant, a better covenant, and even a higher covenant than that of Abraham. To an extent the covenant is the same, however, it has higher implications - a higher bar, so to speak.

I have not crossed anyone here, so far, that has said adultery is okey for a believer. As far as tattoos and piercings, well, I think that's more a matter between the individual believer and the Lord. Under grace we are more responsible, and more accountable than we were under the Law. Under the Law it was "If you do not obey..." Under grace it is "If you do not live..."

[Snowdoove]

BloodStainedSoul~

The OT is just as important as the NT.

It is a shame that some ministers choose not to share the OT.

I was raised Lutheran. On Sunday mornings the minister would read The Epistle, which was a verse or verses from the OT.

It wasn't until 1992, after my trip to Israel, that I started to research the OT.

I believe the problem lies with whom ever was teaching or preaching, over the last 2000 years. MEN should have read what was in front of them, and not gave Their VIEW of it. (This is sort of like a Grandfather clause).

The above statement doesn't refer to the guys on WB, I Pray.

I think over the years we have been conditioned to hearing only from the New Testament.

Throw out the Old Testament -NEVER, NEVER, NEVER.

It takes the OT to have the NT.

Snowdoove

[Blood Stained Soul]

[tsth]

I am reminded of this passage:

Matthew 13:52 Then He said to them, "Therefore every scribe instructed concerning the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure things new and old."

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Blood Stained Soul]

[Guest shadow2b]

-I remembered after posting that Jesus did indeed mention tithing in Matthew...he was railing the Pharasee for tithing but doing other stuff, he did not say stop tithing but to keep on doing so as well as do those things they were neglecting. So I here by Ammend the 1st post to include tithing in things mentioned by Christ...etc...

-Quite so----JESUS mentioned"tithing"----paul also "mentioned-tithing'--

-HEB.7.vss.1.thru.28----for the whole context about "tithing"-------

-vs.4--Now consider how great this man was,unto whom even the patriarch ABRAHAM gave

-the "tenth"of the "SPOILS"-----

-how ever IF you KEEP"ONE-POINT" of the LAW you MUST keep ALL the points of the LAW----

-vs.12.----

-For the "priesthood" being changed,there is made of necessity a change also of the LAW-----

-priesthood---"CHANGED"--Law of "TITHING" was FULFILLED{CHANGED} AT THE CROSS--AS were -

-ALL other -points of the LAW....

-HEB.10.vs.9-------

-Then said HE,LO,I come to do thy will,O'GOD.HE taketh away the"FIRST",that HE

-may establish the "SECOND".........

-At the time JESUS made the statement about"tithing" to the pharisee's the OLD covenant was

-STILL in effect--each & every Point of the LAW still had to be KEPT{OR TRIED TO ANYHOW}BUT AT

-the CROSS ALL--EVERY POINT --EVERY-ASPECT WAS FULFILLED---CHANGED--DONE-AWAY WITH

-hence----the LAW is written in our HEARTS & in our minds & in that way WE{KEEP}the law--such as

-we don't murder--steal--covet--etc-etc-etc-{but one of our resident theologians--{YOD}--

-can explain-the "LAW" in quite a minute way--that just blows :my-po-lill-ole-brain}

[Willow]

To learn sometimes where you are going and how you can improve, you need to know where you have come from. The Old Testament establishes not only Jesus' lineage as well as establishes the majority of the prophecies that Jesus was to fulfill and things to happen. Look at how Daniel and the book of Revelation work hand in hand? Or in Genesis, when right after the fall of man it speaks of the head of the serpent being crushed, and that was what Jesus came and did. How would we see the creation, fall and development of mankind and it's character and flaws but through the trials and tribulations of past society's? The lessons and commandments in the Old Testament help to teach us about ourselves and about the human heart. What lessons have we learned from them?

You cannot or maybe I should be saying should not separate one from the other. Scripture is too interlinked with itself to be used effeciently with only one part. It was meant as a whole - we should leave it as a whole. IMHO

Willow

[Blood Stained Soul]

[Guest yod]

:::blushes:::

:hug:

why thanks for that lil' ole' endorsement Gary.....but

I just woke up yesterday with a new revelation of the Law (new to me at least)

It was weird....like a dream or something in a sub-conscience level just before I woke up.

I can't even put it into words yet but I'll mull around on it for a few days and try to post what I believe the Lord was showing me.