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[Guest eyesnowopen]

I clicked on this topic, because I would really like to understand more about Hebrew roots,maybe I haven't looked hard enough,but so far all I have seen here and for that matter,most everywhere else I have looked,is topics leading to arguments.People venting their frustration.I don't think that's what these forums were intended for.Jesus said enter by the Narrow gate,for wide is the gate,and broad is the road that leads to destruction.The Narrow way requires listening to the still small voice.I haven't heard it much here,and it is drowned out much too quickly.

If someone "preferably a Hebrew who really understands this"would be willing to take me aside and help me to understand these things I would be willing to listen.I want to make a difference and this is a stumbling block for me.This country is so corrupt,I was writing last night about how people in this country,from a young age are taught to think a certain way,and that thinking outside of this is not encouraged.Things aren't the way they seem.Most people just go by what they have been taught about this country and how things are,and they don't know it is wrong.The idolatry of patriotism,the brainwashing of youth.I read in Habakkuk where it says woe to him who founds a town on bloodshed and violence,isn't that what we are founded on as a nation?"Our founding fathers may have been Christian,but were the people who first came to America really following Christianity the way Jesus taught?And i would even be willing to say that our founding Fathers would be"and probably are" rolling over in their graves about the way things are today.Our National anthem glorifies war and violence.We are taught from youth that this is something to glorify and be proud of.

[Vickilynn]

I clicked on this topic, because I would really like to understand more about Hebrew roots,maybe I haven't looked hard enough,but so far all I have seen here and for that matter,most everywhere else I have looked,is topics leading to arguments.People venting their frustration.I don't think that's what these forums were intended for.Jesus said enter by the Narrow gate,for wide is the gate,and broad is the road that leads to destruction.The Narrow way requires listening to the still small voice.I haven't heard it much here,and it is drowned out much too quickly.

If someone "preferably a Hebrew who really understands this"would be willing to take me aside and help me to understand these things I would be willing to listen.I want to make a difference and this is a stumbling block for me.This country is so corrupt,I was writing last night about how people in this country,from a young age are taught to think a certain way,and that thinking outside of this is not encouraged.Things aren't the way they seem.Most people just go by what they have been taught about this country and how things are,and they don't know it is wrong.The idolatry of patriotism,the brainwashing of youth.I read in Habakkuk where it says woe to him who founds a town on bloodshed and violence,isn't that what we are founded on as a nation?"Our founding fathers may have been Christian,but were the people who first came to America really following Christianity the way Jesus taught?And i would even be willing to say that our founding Fathers would be"and probably are" rolling over in their graves about the way things are today.Our National anthem glorifies war and violence.We are taught from youth that this is something to glorify and be proud of.

Shalom,

If you'd like to ask some specific questions about Hebrew Roots, I'm happy to answer. As to your other thoughts, they might be better placed in other topics as they don't relate to Hebrew Roots specifically.

[Guest eyesnowopen]

I clicked on this topic, because I would really like to understand more about Hebrew roots,maybe I haven't looked hard enough,but so far all I have seen here and for that matter,most everywhere else I have looked,is topics leading to arguments.People venting their frustration.I don't think that's what these forums were intended for.Jesus said enter by the Narrow gate,for wide is the gate,and broad is the road that leads to destruction.The Narrow way requires listening to the still small voice.I haven't heard it much here,and it is drowned out much too quickly.

If someone "preferably a Hebrew who really understands this"would be willing to take me aside and help me to understand these things I would be willing to listen.I want to make a difference and this is a stumbling block for me.This country is so corrupt,I was writing last night about how people in this country,from a young age are taught to think a certain way,and that thinking outside of this is not encouraged.Things aren't the way they seem.Most people just go by what they have been taught about this country and how things are,and they don't know it is wrong.The idolatry of patriotism,the brainwashing of youth.I read in Habakkuk where it says woe to him who founds a town on bloodshed and violence,isn't that what we are founded on as a nation?"Our founding fathers may have been Christian,but were the people who first came to America really following Christianity the way Jesus taught?And i would even be willing to say that our founding Fathers would be"and probably are" rolling over in their graves about the way things are today.Our National anthem glorifies war and violence.We are taught from youth that this is something to glorify and be proud of.

Shalom,

If you'd like to ask some specific questions about Hebrew Roots, I'm happy to answer. As to your other thoughts, they might be better placed in other topics as they don't relate to Hebrew Roots specifically.

Shalom,My understanding is that I am a grafted in Gentile believer.But I am curious as to whether or not I have Hebrew roots in My family tree.Did the Israelites migrate North into Europe.What is my standing in the Body of Christ?

[Guest YHWHblesses]

Shalom eyesnowopen (I like your name! That's how I feel too!)

I am brand-new to this BB but hopefully can share some encouragement with you! (To just throw something in here, I use the name Yeshua in speaking our my Lord and Saviour, as that is the Hebrew name by which our Lord was called; its a personal thing, and I intend no offense to those who use the name Jesus, nor does that bother me). That said...

As a believer in Yeshua (Jesus) and relatively new to walking in Torah (as a formerly very NT-oriented Christian) I will primarily respond to your question from the "grafted-in" standpoint. But as a preface, I am reminded that all of us are on a "journey" here. There are Jewish believers in Messiah Yeshua who are sorting through their upbringing, and there are Christians who have newly discovered the Hebrew/Jewish roots of our own Christian faith. There may well also be non-believers - Jewish or gentile - who are simply curious, or are here searching for answers. Looking at things from a Biblical standpoint, I believe in these last days we will continue to see conflicts and struggles within the Body (perhaps ESPECIALLY in the Messianic Torah-observant camp) as both Christian Messianic believers and Messianic Jews sort through centuries-old misperceptions and new personal revelation (and the enemy works to take advantage of the confusion). BUT, we can trust in the faithfulness of our Abba God Who is NOT the author of that confusion! As we continue to seek him in His Word (His WHOLE Word!) He will be faithful to open our spiritual eyes again and again! As we do witness debate and sometimes hard feelings in such a vulnerable place as an internet BB where believers are doing all that "sorting" and seeking understanding , I am reminded of Colossians 3:

"Therefore if you have been raised up with Yeshua, keep seeking the things above , where He is seated on the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth...... as those who have been chosen of God, holy and beloved, put on a heart of compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.; bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, whoever has a complaint against another, just as the Lord forgave you, so also should you. Beyond all these things, put on love, which is the perfect bond of unity. Let the peace of Yeshua rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called into one Body, and be thankful.... whatsoever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Yeshua, giving thanks through Him to God the Father."

As I have a number of thoughts to share with you here, I'll continue tomorrow with my take on your questions....

Shalom Aleichem.

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Welcome to Worthy YHWHblesses!

[Guest YHWHblesses]

Thanks for the welcome to the BB!

eyesnowopen - sorry I didn't get back here yesterday! I have only a minute now also - but will be back ASAP!

quote: " ...My understanding is that I am a grafted in Gentile believer.But I am curious as to whether or not I have Hebrew roots in My family tree.Did the Israelites migrate North into Europe. What is my standing in the Body of Christ? "

The most vital question you asked is "What is my standing in the Body of Christ? " Why? Because the most imperative thing to grasp is this:

Your standing in the Body of Christ is exactly that. Your salvation IS Christ. Yeshua gave His lifeblood on the cross for you, and it is through that blood - and nothing else - that you are saved. Obedience is part of the "package" - but it is not your salvation. Roots is part of the "package", but it is not your salvation.

More later.

Shalom.

[Ani Ma'amin!]

Why not look for a Messianic congregation? Where do you live? I found that the best way to find the answer is to ask G-d and to ask the Jewish community itself. The MJAA (Messianic Jewish Alliance of America) at www.mjaa.org or the Union of Messianic Jewish Congregations (UMJC) at www.umjc.org. They should have a list of congregations and synagaogues on the site.

Ani