how about y opinion about man with long hair?

[BlindSeeker]

The word geber is used 3 times in Deuteronomy.

Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth to a geber, neither shall a geber put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

That accounts for two of the times. The other one is found in Deuteronomy 22:8

When thou buildest a new house, then thou shalt make a battlement for thy roof, that thou bring not blood upon thine house, if any geber fall from thence.

In verse 8, it is obviously talking about any man because it says so in the verse, and it still uses the word geber. You are wrong about how many times the word is used in Deuteronomy and you are wrong about the meaning of verse 5.

I sit corrected, it is used twice in one verse.

De 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man

<geber>

, neither shall a man

<geber>

put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

6 If a bird's nest chance to be before thee in the way in any tree, or on the ground, whether they be young ones, or eggs, and the dam sitting upon the young, or upon the eggs, thou shalt not take the dam with the young:

7 But thou shalt in any wise let the dam go, and take the young to thee; that it may be well with thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days.

8 When thou buildest a new house, then thou shalt make a battlement for thy roof, that thou bring not blood upon thine house, if any man fall from thence.

However, my resources do not show the <gerber> at all in verse 8, rather the word "man" is inserted by the translators for clarity. Nonetheless, the insistent of the "battlement for thy roof" implies it is there for the safety of the warrior in battle . . . wouldn't you think?

I would find that as further support that the verse is more correctly saying that a woman ought not to wear the vestures of war anymore than a warrior should wear the garments of a woman.

Interestingly, the verse was somewhat prophetic, as we see in Josephus where he documents the latter part of this abomination during the fall of Jerusalem in Book of Wars IV, Chapter 9, paragraph 10-

10. And now, as soon as Simon had set his wife free, and recovered her from the zealots, he returned back to the remainders of Idumea, and driving the nation all before him from all quarters, he compelled a great number of them to retire to Jerusalem; he followed them himself also to the city, and encompassed the wall all round again; and when he lighted upon any laborers that were coming thither out of the country, he slew them. Now this Simon, who was without the wall, was a greater terror to the people than the Romans themselves, as were the zealots who were within it more heavy upon them than both of the other; and during this time did the mischievous contrivances and courage [of John] corrupt the body of the Galileans; for these Galileans had advanced this John, and made him very potent, who made them suitable requital from the authority he had obtained by their means; for he permitted them to do all things that any of them desired to do, while their inclination to plunder was insatiable, as was their zeal in searching the houses of the rich; and for the murdering of the men, and abusing of the women, it was sport to them.

They also devoured what spoils they had taken, together with their blood, and indulged themselves in feminine wantonness, without any disturbance, till they were satiated therewith; while they decked their hair, and

put on women's garments

, and were besmeared over with ointments; and that they might appear very comely, they had paints under their eyes, and imitated not only the ornaments, but also the lusts of women, and were guilty of such intolerable uncleanness, that they invented unlawful pleasures of that sort. And thus did they roll themselves up and down the city, as in a brothel-house, and defiled it entirely with their impure actions; nay, while their faces looked like the faces of women, they killed with their right hands; and when their gait was effeminate, they presently attacked men,

and became warriors

, and drew their swords from under their finely dyed cloaks, and ran every body through whom they alighted upon.

However, Simon waited for such as ran away from John, and was the more bloody of the two; and he who had escaped the tyrant within the wall was destroyed by the other that lay before the gates, so that all attempts of flying and deserting to the Romans were cut off, as to those that had a mind so to do.

To reduce this verse to cross dressing, or women wearing pants is poor a exegesis of the verse. If that was the intent of the verse the Hebrew word

[BlindSeeker]

Since you are simply restating over and over what you have already said and not addressing the counter points presented to you, perhaps it should be closed.

[BlindSeeker]

Since you are simply restating over and over what you have already said and not addressing the counter points presented to you, perhaps it should be closed.

I added this use of geber in my post before you finished posting. Proverbs 29:5

A geber that flattereth his neighbour spreadeth a net for his feet.

This is not a reference to a soldier, yet the word geber is used.

What does the net imply? to entrap and capture?

[traveller]

How many times is the word break in this post?

Sometimes man needs to take a break.

If you play with a toy too hard it will break.

Coffee breaks are nice.

Will it break me if I take too long of a break?

How about a break from this thread?