Faith No More

[Guest Lord of Shadows]

My faith been faltering for years, but now it's truly gone. I don't believe in God or the Devil, Heaven or Hell. Not to say that I dont believe in some God or Gods, or some form of afterlife, I do believe in that, I just no longer believe in the Christian views. I don't believe in any religion really. I believe something created this universe, I believe there is some sort of God or Gods, some form of afterlife, but that's where it ends. Why is my faith gone? A few reasons. The world is the main reason. We have death, disease, famine, war, all sorts of horrible things. Good people die, the corrupt live on. Things are also inconsistent. Everyone says God is a loving being but he sure doesn't seem like it. He gets ticked off and people die. In The Bible anyway. If you tick him off, you're going to Hell. He does not want you to worship ANY other God but him. He demands love.... These are just a few things. The Bible is also full of contradictions. Like the free will thing I mentioned in my "Inquiries" topic and the whole "He loves you but you're going to Hell" thing in the same topic.

[Guest adrewmc]

My faith been faltering for years, but now it's truly gone. I don't believe in God or the Devil, Heaven or Hell. Not to say that I dont believe in some God or Gods, or some form of afterlife, I do believe in that, I just no longer believe in the Christian views. I don't believe in any religion really. I believe something created this universe, I believe there is some sort of God or Gods, some form of afterlife, but that's where it ends. Why is my faith gone? A few reasons. The world is the main reason. We have death, disease, famine, war, all sorts of horrible things. Good people die, the corrupt live on. Things are also inconsistent. Everyone says God is a loving being but he sure doesn't seem like it. He gets ticked off and people die. In The Bible anyway. If you tick him off, you're going to Hell. He does not want you to worship ANY other God but him. He demands love.... These are just a few things. The Bible is also full of contradictions. Like the free will thing I mentioned in my "Inquiries" topic and the whole "He loves you but you're going to Hell" thing in the same topic.

Your faith is gone because your trying to make yourself believe exactly what you are told...the sooner you realize that the bible is just a guide for our life the sooner you get your faith back. You cannot put your faith in the bible or the church because these are created by man, not by divinity. I went through the same thing when my aunt died.

Bottom line, you need to find your own views, examine your faith and question everything, things that don't make sense disregard...and if after all that you still feel there is no God then there is no God for you.

[Guest Lord of Shadows]

I didn't try to believe, I actually did a long time ago. I just grew up and questioned things. Alot of it just didn't add up.

I did disregard everything that didn't make sense, which ended up being all of religion.

[Guest LadyC]

shadows, i will try to respond tomorrow... i really don't have time tonight, but hopefully others can stand in the gap until i get back here. i'm sorry, i feel like i kinda left you in the lurch, since you posted this thread (i think) in response to my question in another.

[Trusting Jesus]

It is not wrong to question. But along with questions you need to study. Have you studied the Bible? People die, that's true, but it makes not difference if you are "good" or "bad" you will still die one day. It is the choices we make while living that will determine if we spend eternity in Heaven or not. You see, people have a whole different idea of "good" than God does. God is perfect. There is no sin in Heaven. If a person has sin in them they cannot spend eternity in Heaven with God. Simple as that.

The 10 Commandments give us an idea of what God expects.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:3

So a person who is a "good" person who chooses to watch television rather that study the Bible to learn more of God has just broken the first Commandment.

"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." Exodus 20:7

That same "good" person stubs his toe and says....well, you know what he says. He has just broken another Commandment.

"Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee." Exodus 20:12

That "good" person probably has talked back to Dad and Mom at sometime.

That "good" person is probably a nice guy, friendly, outgoing, funny. But as nice as he is he falls short of God's standard. The Old Testament set out sacrifices of bulls, lambs, grain, etc. that would cover past sins. It had to be done over and over because it is a human condition to sin. That is why Jesus Christ came. Jesus was and is God. He entered His creation and became our sacrifice....the covering for our sins past, present, and future. Sin cannot enter Heaven, and no person is capable of not sinning. Jesus is the only way of Salvation.

Now, so often I hear people say the it isn't fair. Well, what isn't fair? God has written the Bible (men penned it, but God the Holy Spirit inspired them) which tells us how sin entered, what the result of sin is, then He came to earth and sacrificed His life for us. What isn't fair? Is it that you want to live your life exactly the way you want to, ignoring God's instructions, then still be able to enter Heaven? If a person does not want to live by God's rules here, why would they want to follow those rules in Heaven? But the decision made while here on earth - whether to accept the sacrifice of Jesus or not - must be made before dying. It is a decision that has eternal affects. Only Jesus gives eternal life. We all have a choice. God will not force anyone to live in eternity with Him.

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Nathele

[Guest Lord of Shadows]

You see, I think religion is just a way to control people. They all promise rewards..... after death... Why after death? Because no one really knows what happens after death so they just concentrate on controlling living people.

"Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee."

That's just another way of controlling people, the words are just different. I think respect should be earned, not automatic. Not every parent deserves respect. Treat me good I'll treat you good. Screw with me too much and there will be hell to pay.

And why can't God stand sin? If it wasn't for him it would have never existed. He created Satan, whom was the first sinner as far as I know. If God hated sin so much why not get rid of it? Snap his finger and Satan and sin never existed, and we would all be happy and sinless.

[shanee]

My faith been faltering for years, but now it's truly gone. I don't believe in God or the Devil, Heaven or Hell. Not to say that I dont believe in some God or Gods, or some form of afterlife, I do believe in that, I just no longer believe in the Christian views. I don't believe in any religion really. I believe something created this universe, I believe there is some sort of God or Gods, some form of afterlife, but that's where it ends. Why is my faith gone? A few reasons. The world is the main reason. We have death, disease, famine, war, all sorts of horrible things. Good people die, the corrupt live on. Things are also inconsistent. Everyone says God is a loving being but he sure doesn't seem like it. He gets ticked off and people die. In The Bible anyway. If you tick him off, you're going to Hell. He does not want you to worship ANY other God but him. He demands love.... These are just a few things. The Bible is also full of contradictions. Like the free will thing I mentioned in my "Inquiries" topic and the whole "He loves you but you're going to Hell" thing in the same topic.

"The world is the main reason"...........Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Job 42:2 I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withheld from thee.

[stan4257]

My faith been faltering for years, but now it's truly gone.

It interests me how many newcomers to Worthy Boards start off with a carefully constructed argument against Christianity, almost as if they are using this forum to gain support for their ideas. It is as if there are legions out there looking for some avenue to strengthen what they have already decided is truth for themselves..

Might not be the situation with you, but it sure sounds as if it might be.

But you will not get an argument from me. If you claim to be an unbeliever and also, by your name choice, to be walking in darkness, then that is your choice.

For me, walking in the light with Jesus Christ is far preferable. It is an experience that I have come to know and appreciate and accept as part of my life.

The only challenge is in your court. You either stay in darkness or move into the light. Nothing you say will persuade me to walk in the darkness with you.

But if you are serious or even interested there are many in Worthy Boards who will go out of their way to help you. If you only want to sing the joys of walking in darkness then that is sad but your choice.

And none of this is an editorial opinion, just mine as one member of Worthy Boards, and counting for no more than that.

Edited January 24, 2008 by stan4257

[Trusting Jesus]

You are bitter, aren't you. Can I ask why you are on a Christian board? I'm not trying to tell you not to be here, but are you seeking truth or just trying to prove to us that we are wrong? Well, I hope that you are seeking truth.

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Nathele

[Guest gavin]

My faith been faltering for years, but now it's truly gone. I don't believe in God or the Devil, Heaven or Hell. Not to say that I dont believe in some God or Gods, or some form of afterlife, I do believe in that, I just no longer believe in the Christian views. I don't believe in any religion really. I believe something created this universe, I believe there is some sort of God or Gods, some form of afterlife, but that's where it ends. Why is my faith gone? A few reasons. The world is the main reason. We have death, disease, famine, war, all sorts of horrible things. Good people die, the corrupt live on. Things are also inconsistent. Everyone says God is a loving being but he sure doesn't seem like it. He gets ticked off and people die. In The Bible anyway. If you tick him off, you're going to Hell. He does not want you to worship ANY other God but him. He demands love.... These are just a few things. The Bible is also full of contradictions. Like the free will thing I mentioned in my "Inquiries" topic and the whole "He loves you but you're going to Hell" thing in the same topic.