Ddavid from NC Posted January 31, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 196 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,343 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/03/1964 Share Posted January 31, 2008 We hear the term "Backslidden" often but the term "Apostasy" less often are they synonymous ways of describing the same spiritual state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 We hear the term "Backslidden" often but the term "Apostasy" less often are they synonymous ways of describing the same spiritual state? Well it depends on which Hebrew word you use. The Hebrew word "meshuvah" used in Jeremiah 8:5 for backsliding refers to apostasy. However the word in for backsliding in Hosea 4:16 is "sa'ar" and does not carry the same meaning. It refers to rebellion and obstinance, but not in the same sense as complete apostasy. "Sa'ar" is used to refer to the children of Israel who were living in sin and rebelling against God, but not having defected completely away from Him. Having said that, I think the way the word "backslidden" is used in common Christian parlance is more like the word "sa'ar" and less like "meshuvah." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted January 31, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2008 Grace to you, I would have to agree with Brother Shiloh's interpretation. Peace, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 31, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.21 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 31, 2008 I also have to agree. It has become a common way of thinking today that if a person did truly turn their back on Christ, then they were never really saved. I have heard this many times. Some don't think this is even possible. In Him, Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted February 1, 2008 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted February 1, 2008 per the dictionary: apostasy...abandoning ones religion backslidden....returning to sinful behavior I would think that a backslidden person doesn't nessecarily abandon his religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbyrd Posted February 1, 2008 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 105 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/28/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted February 1, 2008 apostacy is ceasing to believe. backsliding is lawlessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddavid from NC Posted February 1, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 196 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,343 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/03/1964 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Thanks for the responses, your research agrees with mine, and it does create more question doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Thanks for the responses, your research agrees with mine, and it does create more question doesn't it? What sort of questions does it create for you? Good thread topic, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddavid from NC Posted February 1, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 196 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,343 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/03/1964 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Thanks for the responses, your research agrees with mine, and it does create more question doesn't it? What sort of questions does it create for you? Good thread topic, by the way. Can apostasy be the state of a once professing Christian? or Is it reserved for the state of a nation or collective group? We all agree and we have personally experienced backslidding but the total recanting of one's faith is another issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted February 1, 2008 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I think there may be a gray area as well. In my travels I have met several people who have told me that they are "non-practicing Catholics". Some displayed horrible behavior, while others seemed to be doing well. At first they may be considered backslidden, but then again, if you choose to quit practicing, is that a subtle way of abandoning your beliefs. On the surface you rebeled, but down deep you wonder if your making a mistake??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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