Sept. 11th Planner to Stand Trial

[David of Derby]

Treaties don't mean squat if the government that signed them decides they don't. Of course, the US will be an even bigger pariah in the international community, but hey who cares? The American public wants blood and doesn't care about due process, so crack on. Nothing any of us here says will change anything.

[nebula]

David - your arguments seem to amount to: our system of justice and our government's means of handling this situation is imperfect. Therefore, we should let the guilty go unpunished.

[Rick-Parker]

Giaour, you say simulated drowning like it's a trival matter. Maybe it's because I'm hydrophobic, but I can't imagine anything more utterly terrfying. I'd rather have been blown up on the Tube than face that.

I don't deny these people are unspeakably evil, but if you sink, even a little, towards their level then they've won. It's not about killing Americans or British or Spanish people, it's about destroying our way of life. If we take away the rights our laws say they have, then we've done their work for them. Just because a form of torture might not be as severe as the rack or a starving rat chewing through their stomach doesn't make it any less of an outrage.

I don't deny that execution is a fitting punishment for what these people did, but only a fair and impartial trial establishes their guilt beyond reasonable doubt, in accordance with civilised law. Do anything less and you justify the charges they hurl at you.

No, they win when they kill or subjegate us all. Our way of life is destroyed when they take our very lives. They are not Americans and not entitled to our rights. They aren't concerned about our "rights", only on how to use them to their advantage to kill us. They see us as a decaying, decedent society (which we are) that is ripe for revolution; that we are weak and thin-skinned. How would you react if you were Danial Pearl's brother and his murderers were given into you hands? Would you pat them on the back and say "that's ok. And by the way, are you planning on blowing up any more buildings or exploding a dirty bomb any time soon? Tell us, won't you my good man/lady?" Do to others what they do to you! Terrorists and criminals! This "rant" of mine is not directly at anyone in particular.

[Rick-Parker]

David - your arguments seem to amount to: our system of justice and our government's means of handling this situation is imperfect. Therefore, we should let the guilty go unpunished.

Perhaps that is why Britain has a problem with home grown terriorists. Our system of justice and our government's means of handling situations was just fine when we saved Europe from Germany, twice. No offense!

[David of Derby]

No, they win when they kill or subjegate us all. Our way of life is destroyed when they take our very lives. They are not Americans and not entitled to our rights. They aren't concerned about our "rights", only on how to use them to their advantage to kill us. They see us as a decaying, decedent society (which we are) that is ripe for revolution; that we are weak and thin-skinned. How would you react if you were Danial Pearl's brother and his murderers were given into you hands? Would you pat them on the back and say "that's ok. And by the way, are you planning on blowing up any more buildings or exploding a dirty bomb any time soon? Tell us, won't you my good man/lady?" Do to others what they do to you! Terrorists and criminals! This "rant" of mine is not directly at anyone in particular.

I'm finding it really hard to think of a response to this nonsense. You obviously have no respect for the rule of law. I'm glad not all Americans are like this.

Perhaps that is why Britain has a problem with home grown terriorists. Our system of justice and our government's means of handling situations was just fine when we saved Europe from Germany, twice. No offense!

None taken. You're clearly unfamiliar with the situation, so why be offended?

[Rick-Parker]

No, they win when they kill or subjegate us all. Our way of life is destroyed when they take our very lives. They are not Americans and not entitled to our rights. They aren't concerned about our "rights", only on how to use them to their advantage to kill us. They see us as a decaying, decedent society (which we are) that is ripe for revolution; that we are weak and thin-skinned. How would you react if you were Danial Pearl's brother and his murderers were given into you hands? Would you pat them on the back and say "that's ok. And by the way, are you planning on blowing up any more buildings or exploding a dirty bomb any time soon? Tell us, won't you my good man/lady?" Do to others what they do to you! Terrorists and criminals! This "rant" of mine is not directly at anyone in particular.

I'm finding it really hard to think of a response to this nonsense. You obviously have no respect for the rule of law. I'm glad not all Americans are like this.

Perhaps that is why Britain has a problem with home grown terriorists. Our system of justice and our government's means of handling situations was just fine when we saved Europe from Germany, twice. No offense!

None taken. You're clearly unfamiliar with the situation, so why be offended?

Drink some more kool-aide and go listen to the BBC, OK.

[David of Derby]

Thank you for proving our stereotypes.

[Rick-Parker]

What would that stereotype be, my brother?

[Giaour]

David,

It is because of your "namby pamby , they are just misunderstood" attitude that the UK is going to be under sharia law.

When are you going to fight back?

Or are you just going to sit back and criticize a country that still has a chance to defeat them?

[refugepsa91]

Step back...take a break people.

pm me if there are any questions.....