Communication with God

[refugepsa91]

:il: Yes God does most definately communicate with us.

For me it is that voice in your head that speaks up when you least expect it. I know that voice is God...I have heard it recently loud and clear and I did exactely what He told me do. (giving) And I have to say it is the most wonderful feeling to obey. I agree though you have to becareful its not your self or something else, make sure before you act that it lines up with the word.

Love and Blessings,

Angel

P.S. Sam you made me laugh....I could see where the confusion could come it :oww:

[gypc]

"my sheep hear my voice"

And............that voice will never contradict his word!!

[BoldlyProclaimingChrist]

Yes the Lord has spoken to me many times but no audibly. I'll try to explain this.

After I pray and I ask Him a question and I'm asking with a pure and earnest heart, suddently I have it but it's not just one thing, it's like 5 things all at once. I keep notebooks around because when God speaks to me, I write everything down because it's usually more than 1 sentence. They absolutely line up with Scripture and most of the things I ask Him are about my motives, my heart and He has revealed to me my hidden sin in my heart which were horrible. He has humbled me many times by showing me my motives and my wicked heart.

I also noticed that if he speaks to us other than what Ijust described or through the Word, that you will get several confirmations from different sources.

Ex: I was writing a letter to an inmate (I'm in prison ministries) about 'trust'. As I was writing him, I got a greater understanding of trust. then I turned on the tv and Charles Stanley was on and he was speaking about how if we minister to people, we will get a greater understanding ourselves AND his topic that day was TRUST. Then I put on a Christian radio station and someone (forgot who) was speaking about TRUST and getting a deeper understanding of it. I was floored!!!! So I got 3 confirmations in the span of 1+ hours.

I have to correct one poster on here. You did not speak to God face to face because God is pure and holy and we are riddled with sin. God is INCOMPATIBLE with sin, therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE for us to face Him. By you saying that, you are saying we have no need for a mediator, no need for Christ. You are saying we are as pure and as holy as God and that is not Scriptural. If you saw something, it sure was not God and I can give you numerous verses stating that we cannot face Him. Our sin will not allow it.

[Guest matthew517]

I'm sorry but it was face to face. Just as He gazed upon all the others He called. Paul, Martha, Peter, John etc.... all were sinners yet He gazed upon them. And even allowed a sinful women to wash His feet. His dealing with sinners is what the gospels are all about. Also in the gospels are those whom have taken the same stance you are taking. As His feet were being kissed they said ""If this man were a prophet, he would know who is touching him and what kind of woman she is

Edited May 13, 2004 by matthew517

[Catsmeow]

I don't dismiss people's experiences...they're all personal and tailor made.

Now IF you'd said God told you to go rob a bank, rape a neighbor or shoot the guy next door, it would be obvious who's voice you were hearing.

A tree is known by it's fruit...and the Fruit of the Spirit is Gal. 5:22...so we know His fruit from the one who deceives.

Jesus always gives us a barometer to help us discern truth from fiction.

[BoldlyProclaimingChrist]

If you saw God face to face, then you would fall on yours. Plus God is Spirit so you did not see His face. Plus God cannot come in contact with SIN which you and we are riddled with. Some of what you said refers to Jesus, not God, and Jesus said:

John 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

The above speaks for itself.

Matt 25:31 But when the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: 25:32 and before him shall be gathered all the nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats; 25:33 and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

This speaks of His second coming right before judgment day.

I believe we can have communication with Jesus and God but saying that you have physically seen God (which is Spirit) and Jesus sitting on your couch is unBiblical. I don't care what great things they say, even if it's "biblical", the fact that you claimed that you saw them is unbiblical.

[BobTriez]

If you saw God face to face, then you would fall on yours. Plus God is Spirit so you did not see His face. Plus God cannot come in contact with SIN which you and we are riddled with. Some of what you said refers to Jesus, not God, and Jesus said:

John 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

The above speaks for itself.

Edited May 14, 2004 by BobTriez

[BoldlyProclaimingChrist]

I know that Jesus is God but he made two different distinctions. The whole thing does not make any sense to me.

He was referring to Jesus with this: And even allowed a sinful women to wash His feet And since I can't look at his first post while I'm writing this, I cannot find the part where he states he saw God face to face.

I stand by this.

John 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

I'm not sure if Satan or demons can manifest themselves - I'm not disagreeing with you either but I do know that Satan can possess or control an existing being.

Something else to think about. The Bible refers to Jesus' second coming as His second coming. If Jesus were making regular trips to earth, then that would void out the "second" part of the statement. It would say "another" coming or something else but it clearly states "second" coming. So there's this point to consider, plus the verse I gave above and I have to ask you....who are you going to believe? This poster? or the Bible?

I don't mean to be rude - I'm really concerned here. I don't think he's making it up but I also do not believe Him, no matter how real it was to him. It simply is not Scriptural. It goes against Scripture in fact.

Anyone can say anything Biblical but you must look at the entire situation and weight the whole thing. Yes this "guy" said nice things, no new revelations or anything, in fact he didn't even have to come to earth to say them, and yet just the fact they he appeared and his claim as to who he is raises a HUGE red flag. We must be careful not to accept anything and everything just because they said something nice or even Biblical things. We are to exercise discernment and try to be wise.

[BobTriez]

I know that Jesus is God but he made two different distinctions. The whole thing does not make any sense to me.

He was referring to Jesus with this:  And even allowed a sinful women to wash His feet And since I can't look at his first post while I'm writing this, I cannot find the part where he states he saw God face to face.

I stand by this.

John 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

I'm not sure if Satan or demons can manifest themselves - I'm not disagreeing with you either but I do know that Satan can possess or control an existing being.

Something else to think about. The Bible refers to Jesus' second coming as His second coming. If Jesus were making regular trips to earth, then that would void out the "second" part of the statement. It would say "another" coming or something else but it clearly states "second" coming. So there's this point to consider, plus the verse I gave above and I have to ask you....who are you going to believe? This poster? or the Bible?

I don't mean to be rude - I'm really concerned here. I don't think he's making it up but I also do not believe Him, no matter how real it was to him. It simply is not Scriptural. It goes against Scripture in fact.

Anyone can say anything Biblical but you must look at the entire situation and weight the whole thing. Yes this "guy" said nice things, no new revelations or anything, in fact he didn't even have to come to earth to say them, and yet just the fact they he appeared and his claim as to who he is raises a HUGE red flag. We must be careful not to accept anything and everything just because they said something nice or even Biblical things. We are to exercise discernment and try to be wise.

You raise some very valid points here...however, I think the Second Coming is more in reference to him coming back for all mankind, just as He did 2000 years ago - only this time He will come in all His glory...However I too am concerned; I don't want to pass judgement on this individual, but the Bible is clear that not all spirits are from above ( ie. unclean or demonic spirits ). Am I saying this is what he saw ? No, by no means. I am in agreement with you however that it is typically un Biblical to say you have seen God.

The last known vision was to the Roman Emperor Constantine in 312 A.D. and to the best of my knowledge, not even the best of the best ( if you can say that - we are all sinners ) have made claims as this...

Again, I'm not saying he's lying...in fact I believe that he saw something....the question is what or who.

Like I stated above, I would use Biblical guidelines of testing this spirit to authenticate who it is.

1 John 4:1-3

1Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

In His service,

Bob

[BoldlyProclaimingChrist]

Bob,

You wrote:

however, I think the Second Coming is more in reference to him coming back for all mankind

Precisely!!!! The fact that this is talking about His second coming adds weight to what I said. He spoke of His second coming after His resurrection. He specifically said we would not see him no more until the second coming (for all mankind) and that hasn't happened yet. If Jesus did come here in the flesh before He came for mankind like the Bible says, then He would call himself a liar. He would cancel himself out.

Great Scripture reference with 1 John 4:1-3. You can't tell but I'm clapping in Spirit. (oh no, I'd better watch before I start a new "movement")