To All Evolutionsts

[Chou]

I'm not looking to prove evolution. I'm a believer and always will be, even if proof was found for it. I believe that even if macroevolution was specifically proven - undeniably and irrefutably - I'd still believe that it was created as process by God (which I do now anyways). I just conjured the question and decided to ask it. That's all this is about. It seems like a legitimate one to ask. You'd think if this were a way to find substantial, surreal evidence for evolution, scientists would be doing it right now. Certainly, I'm not the first to think of this.

I also believe that if evolution is true, that it must be guided by God. He has a hand in everything. Is it possible that he has purposely confused us so that we are forced to THINK about life and ponder the meaning and happenings of everything?

I seriously think so.

[MorningGlory]

Bragging? God? Are you for real??? Christians accept that the Lord created life as put forth in Genesis. Nonbelievers think life originated all by itself. Good theory....except it's total rubbish.

By your particular definition of "Christian" I guess. Lots of believers understand and accept evolution.

There's only one definition of 'Christian'; a follower of Christ. I hardly think you are a good judge of such things.

But appparently you are a good judge of such things.

I think so. I'm not trying to insult you, jukia, so don't take offense. You're not a believer so I figure you don't understand evangelicals. There IS only one definition of Christianity and that is a follower of Christ. I don't understand how atheists or agnostics think and won't attempt to interpret their beliefs (or lack thereof).

Nah, I stopped taking offense at the judgmental nature of evangelicals a long time ago. I understand evangelicals very well. Spent lots of time with a bunch in Bible study.

Nonetheless, it is a fact that many who profess to be Christian have no trouble understanding and accepting evolution. The fundamentalist evangelical position would therefore put those people into the non believer category because of their failure to accept a literal interpretation of Genesis when the natural world tells them otherwise.

I don't think they're nonbelievers; they're just confused by the teaching of some modern churches. I still believe in evolution within species; if they can't adapt they can't survive. I just don't believe that humans evolved from any other species.

[MorningGlory]

I don't think they're nonbelievers; they're just confused by the teaching of some modern churches. I still believe in evolution within species; if they can't adapt they can't survive. I just don't believe that humans evolved from any other species.

One of the standard arguments from personal incredulity.

Yes, that's exactly right. That incredulity, based on the Word, tells me that man was created....as put forth in Genesis.

[MorningGlory]

I don't think they're nonbelievers; they're just confused by the teaching of some modern churches. I still believe in evolution within species; if they can't adapt they can't survive. I just don't believe that humans evolved from any other species.

One of the standard arguments from personal incredulity.

Yes, that's exactly right. That incredulity, based on the Word, tells me that man was created....as put forth in Genesis.

Yet the evidence God left us tells us something different.

In what way?

[MorningGlory]

In what way? I'm taking that as evidence that you don't read very much.--Pick a way--geologically, cosmologically, biologically etc.

There's no call for snarkiness, jukia. I do happen to read...a lot. So, you're saying that, even though the Bible tells us the particulars of Creation, that God left evidence that points in another direction? Why would He contradict Himself?

[Guest]

.... you don't read very much.--Pick a way--geologically, cosmologically, biologically etc.

I Probably Read One Too Many "Science" Posts You Think

Etc.

Faith And Science Merge

As I Understand It Science Finds We Are All Genetically Children Of One Mother (Just Like The LORD Jesus Said)

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Matthew 19:4

Rather Than Give God Credit The Evolution Speculators Speculate That Mom Must Have Come From A Sprinkle Of Star Dust (Peter Pan Evolutionary Science?)

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them,... Genesis 1:27-28

Why

Jukia The Real Concern I Have Is Why Ever Do You Give Up

And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. Jeremiah 29:13

So Jukia If You Should Leave Please Remember

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All That Is Needed Is To Cry Out

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Acts 12:21

Jesus Is Holy And True

Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. Jeremiah 15:16

Taste And See

O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. Psalms 34:8

Amen

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The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

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[MorningGlory]

In what way? I'm taking that as evidence that you don't read very much.--Pick a way--geologically, cosmologically, biologically etc.

There's no call for snarkiness, jukia. I do happen to read...a lot. So, you're saying that, even though the Bible tells us the particulars of Creation, that God left evidence that points in another direction? Why would He contradict Himself?

Maybe your reading of the bible isn't the one He intended. There are a lot of Christians who believe in the infallibility of the Bible and also believe in evolution, the big bang etc, they just interpret it differently.

Maybe....I don't think anyone's interpretation of the Bible is guaranteed to be infallible; including mine. I do believe in the Big Bang theory, it's compatible with the power of the Creator, and I also believe in evolution.... to a point. I simply don't see how anyone could contend that God left evidence that points toward other explanations for the existence of life.

[MorningGlory]

... I also believe in evolution.... to a point. I simply don't see how anyone could contend that God left evidence that points toward other explanations for the existence of life.

MorningGlory, what to you think of the notion "And God said, 'Let Darwin be!' and all was light!"?

Also, you may have explained earlier and I failed to read it, but what do you mean that you believe in evolution to a point? What don't you believe?

I believe that evolution does happen within species...that God created beings this way to assure the species survival as environments change. He is the most awesome of Creators, after all. I don't believe in macroevolution; the process by which one species evolves into another;the theory that all creatures on earth have a common ancestor is just not credible to me. The Bible tells us that God created every species after it's 'kind'. I cannot fathom that the Lord ever said 'Let Darwin be'; the Bible tell us that He said 'Let there be light, and there was light'; I believe the 'Big Bang' is the moment God spoke the universe into being as put forth in Genesis.

[EricH]

Micro-evolution is pretty undebateable. It is macro-evolution that is the source of debate

[MorningGlory]

I believe that evolution does happen within species...that God created beings this way to assure the species survival as environments change. He is the most awesome of Creators, after all. I don't believe in macroevolution; the process by which one species evolves into another;the theory that all creatures on earth have a common ancestor is just not credible to me. The Bible tells us that God created every species after it's 'kind'. I cannot fathom that the Lord ever said 'Let Darwin be'; the Bible tell us that He said 'Let there be light, and there was light'; I believe the 'Big Bang' is the moment God spoke the universe into being as put forth in Genesis.

By what mechanism does evolution happen within species?

By natural selection...if I remember my biology notes. Come on, jukia, you already know this stuff.