Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?

[Guest Katatonic Bliss]

Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?

A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction.

Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction.

A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them.

Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq?

A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections.

Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass destruction, did we?

A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll find something, probably right before the 2004 election.

Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction?

A: To use them in a war, silly.

Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went to war with them?

A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend themselves.

Q: That doesn't make sense. Why would they choose to die if they had all those big weapons with which they could have fought back?

A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense.

Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those weapons our government said they did.

A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway.

Q: And what was that?

A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade another country.

Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his country?

A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people.

Q: Kind of like what they do in China?

A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in sweatshops to make U.S. corporations richer.

Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people?

A: Right.

Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured?

A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government. People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and tortured.

Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China?

A: I told you, China is different.

Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq?

A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China is Communist.

Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad?

A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad.

Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad?

A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are sent to prison and tortured.

Q: Like in Iraq?

A: Exactly.

Q: And like in China, too?

A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other hand, is not.

Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor?

A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and started being capitalists like us.

Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become capitalists?

A: Don't be a smart-ass.

Q: I didn't think I was being one.

A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba.

Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement?

A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate leader anyway.

Q: What's a military coup?

A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the United States.

Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup?

A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is our friend.

Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate?

A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate.

Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an illegitimate leader?

A: Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he helped us invade Afghanistan.

Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan?

A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th.

Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th?

A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men - fifteen of them Saudi Arabians - hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings in New York and Washington, killing 3,000 innocent people.

Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that?

A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive rule of the Taliban.

Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off people's heads and hands?

A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too.

Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars back in May of 2001?

A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job fighting drugs.

Q: Fighting drugs?

A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing opium poppies.

Q: How did they do such a good job?

A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban would have their hands and heads cut off.

Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off for other reasons?

A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off people's hands for stealing bread.

Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia?

A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not comply.

Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too?

A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering.

Q: What's the difference?

A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers.

Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name.

A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are our friends.

Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia.

A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan.

Q: Who trained them?

A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden.

Q: Was he from Afghanistan?

A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very bad man.

Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once.

A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan back in the 1980s.

Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald Reagan talked about?

A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We call them Russians now.

Q: So the Soviets - I mean, the Russians - are now our friends?

A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the French and the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq either.

Q: So the French and Germans are evil, too?

A: Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename French fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast.

Q: Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do what we want them to do?

A: No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade.

Q: But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s?

A: Well, yeah. For a while.

Q: Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then?

A: Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made him our friend, temporarily.

Q: Why did that make him our friend?

A: Because at that time, Iran was our enemy.

Q: Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds?

A: Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we looked the other way, to show him we were his friend.

Q: So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically becomes our friend?

A: Most of the time, yes.

Q: And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically an enemy?

A: Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations can profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time, all the better.

Q: Why?

A: Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war is a godless unAmerican Communist. Do you understand now why we attacked Iraq?

Q: I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right?

A: Yes.

Q: But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq?

A: Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells him what to do.

Q: So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because George W. Bush hears voices in his head?

A: Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night.

Q: Good night, Daddy.

[cymba22]

actually your country attacked them because by anihihlating over 3000 innocent lives for no just cause....they made what is know in military circles ....as statement of intent...the same as hitler did in ww2

[Russell]

Well said brother...you certainly found a few inconsistencies there.

But doesn't the Bible say that the kingdoms of this age worship the beast...Hasn't satan received authority over the kingdoms of this age...show me a righteous Government today...there isn't one...until Christ rules.

However... would you rather be born in a Muslim counrty or a Christian country...I know where I would rather be born...and America would be one of them.

[other one]

actually your country attacked them because by anihihlating over 3000 innocent lives for no just cause....they made what is know in military circles ....as statement of intent...the same as hitler did in ww2

you don't know how much I wish that were not true. There are reasons we are there, but the similairities are disturbing to some of us here.

Sam

[cymba22]

you left out one bit...a discerning differance...which hitlar had no of neither did bin laden....its called integrity...ok i put this to you...had your country not retaliated to the mass slaughter your civilians suffered....what do you think would have happened?????

The next attack would have been sooner

then the next...and before you nknew it your country would have been overriden by the taliban.....what would happen to chrsitains.....do you think they would have been welcomed with open arms.....not...they would have been executed....the same as they were over there...what do you prefer....freedom or tryanny???

tell you what...apologise to the Japs for retaliating against pearl harbour ...they did the same thing bin laden and co did

[cymba22]

Your right...i do not live in your country.....but you know...while your running down your presidents discision on this....your also decrying what your own military personal have done for you....can you not see the insult you are giving them????go and take a look at the next service personells body bag...and say to his familiy his wife and child...i would sooner be over run by the taliban than free...because thats what your saying on this board...

I am not a 'bush right winged supporter' i very rarely venture into politics...yes he was remiss in not protecting the country from this atrocias act...and hes paying for it or will at the election....does your dislike of his inafficancy affect good comman sense?????

If your country had not retaliated....imagine the senerio...what osama was going to shake your hand ...not

bush went about it wrong...that much is agreed....but he rectified his mistake by finally taking charge and NOT listening to his advisers

he also set a country free from tyranny...that alone is to be applauded

tell you what...if you dislike bush so much and prefer to live in a tyrinnical country...then go ahead...you'll soon change your mind...thats if they haven't beheaded you for looking in the wrong direction

[other one]

tell you what...apologise to the Japs for retaliating against pearl harbour ...they did the same thing bin laden and co did

Actually a lot of us did, and still do.

With documents that have been released by the Freedom of Information act, it has pretty well been shown that our president and those who made up the power structure of our country pushed the Japanese into the war by stopping all oil imports to their country months before it started.

They also show that we had broken all of their message codes and our president knew the Japs were coming and hid the information from the military in Hawaii.

We pushed them into action, made it much worse than it had to be, to convince the American people to enter the war.

It is also believed by a lot that we actually did not need to drop either of the bombs at that stage of the war. Especially the second one.

President Johnston compiled a total lie about the incident at the Gulf of Tokin, to get the us involved in the hot part of the viet nam war.

Now, the terrorists that supposedly flew the planes into the world trade center were mainly located in a cell in Hamburg Germany and were as I understand it only very loosely associated with Bin Laden. It is my understanding that we had plans to invade Afghanistan before Sept 11.

There are so many things that happened that day that convince me that at least our government people knew it was coming and just let it happen, again to convince our people to become warlike (which is against the normal personality of most Americans) and back the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, which are both located in very important places in regard to oil supplies.

Lack of oil supplies was one of the more important things that kept Hitler from winning his war.

All in all we have brought this curse on ourselves. While it must be dealt with, we should not consider ourselves as poor innocent bystanders of the world. We along with the Islamic people of the middle east are being used to promote a long term plan by a group of very powerful global people to bring in a world control system that what's left of the world, will accept as good.

If their plan works Christians - Jews, Muslim

[other one]

tell you what...if you dislike bush so much and prefer to live in a tyrinnical country...then go ahead...you'll soon change your mind...thats if they haven't beheaded you for looking in the wrong direction

Take a look at this web site and its archives and you will find that a not so small group of people in this country believes this is just around the corner for those of us within this country.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_police_state.html

You'll find a lot of very well documented information concerning this.

Sam

[cymba22]

sam...i can agree with your post that this could have been prevented....the same as pearl harbour.....but my main point which i do not think is comming across to well is.....

....because it wasn't prevented...and this did happen...would you have prefered to sit back and do nothing??/like the french did in ww2...look what happened there.

[other one]

sam...i can agree with your post that this could have been prevented....the same as pearl harbour.....but my main point which i do not think is comming across to well is.....

....because it wasn't prevented...and this did happen...would you have prefered to sit back and do nothing??/like the french did in ww2...look what happened there.

I actually don't think it would matter either way. There is too much happening too fast to know if we have actually stopped anything or they are just waiting in the background. Remember how long it was between the first attack on wtc's and the second.

It will most likely depend on how much we as a society fight to keep our national soverienty. The more we refuse the new world order the more terriorist attacks we will see.

This is truly a religous war, but it is really not between Christanity and Islam. It is actually between Luciferian and other's; it's just that most of us don't realize it and we are ready to fight the wrong people. And that goes for both we christians and musilm's alike.

In the long run not having access to the oil in the middle east will destroy our country just as well as a terriorist's bomb, it will just take longer.

Last year the Chinese more than doubled their oil imports and very soon if they keep growing their economy and manufacturing there will soon not be enough to go around. When that happens......... oh my..........