Science and the Bible

[Rick-Parker]

Why do liberals on this site try and bait people? Very typical, me thinks.

[Gerioke]

Why do liberals on this site try and bait people? Very typical, me thinks.

I don't know if it's liberalism so much as arrogance.

[Rick-Parker]

Perhaps you are right.

[MorningGlory]

Why do liberals on this site try and bait people? Very typical, me thinks.

I don't think it has anything to do with political leanings at all. For a lot of these people it's the angry atheist syndrome. And then there are the stiff necked Christians. Both groups are very inflexible and try to pidgeon hole others. (Note your own comment, BP; 'very typical, me thinks'). This type of generalization is a good example and is the main reason why most of these threads end up closed, IMO.

[Rick-Parker]

It just appears that it is mostly done by 3 or 4 specific individuals who's political leanings are known and by non-believers who pop on for a short while and then leave (or get banned). But that is just my perception.

[MorningGlory]

It just appears that it is mostly done by 3 or 4 specific individuals who's political leanings are known and by non-believers who pop on for a short while and then leave (or get banned). But that is just my perception.

Actually, there are several Conservatives on this board that do the same thing. Everyone needs to give it up; it's boring.

[Rick-Parker]

You are right. I know of a couple. I'm trying not to look in the mirror.

[JesusIsLord777]

The point is that the fact that our universe is suited to us fits equally well with Creationism and Atheism, so it isn't evidence for either side.

[JesusIsLord777]

To me, creation is evidence of a Creator. To you, it's not. What's there to discuss?

It's really quite simple. Creation may be evidence of a Creator, but the suitability of our planet is not.

Yer starting to sound like "blah blah blah". Making a lot of noise but not saying anything.

Real mature. I've made my point clear.

Over and over again. It's still your opinion.

Some things are matters of opinion, others are matters of fact. Some things are matters of faith, others are matters of reason. This is the latter of both.

Your point is that Creation = Creator, but what I keep trying to tell you is that that is an entirely different and argument to whether or not the suitability of our universe invalidates atheism. The fact that the arguments are separate is not a matter of opinion.

Ok. You win.

Are you saying this because you can't and/or don't wish to expend the mental energy to understand what cache is saying and just want to be done with the conversation, or do you really admit to understanding and agree with cache?

I don't agree with him. I just don't like being nagged.

I know, right? People wanting you to think all the time. What's up with that?

It's not that he doesn't want to think. He just doesn't want to waste his time arguing with you because he knows he has better things to do. He could talk to someone who listens, not to someone who closes his mind and refuses to think outside the box.

Trust me, I know enough of your theories, because I've been forceibly attacked with them for since I was in 8th grade, and I've given them their fair share of thought, and they just don't hold up to my questions, whereas creationism and the Bible do. I suggest opening your mind and looking at our perspectives as well as your own, even if you don't choose to beleive creationism, you'll most likely gain more respect for those of us that do. www.answersingenesis.com

[BibleArcheology]

Do you know what I think is kinda funny? So many scientists act like science and the Bible are bitter enemies, but in reality, they go hand in hand. Thermodynamics, geology, biology, astronomy, etc. They all support the Bible. Especially the last two. Biology show's how precise life is, and how complex it is. That's one source of varying viewpoint. When species are similar, evolutionists claim a common ancestor, while creationists claim a common designer. Astronomy shows just how precise our universe really is. It may seem like chaos, but it is acutally pretty systematic. This is where thermodynamics comes in. The second law of thermodynamics states that all things slowly move toward disorder. This can prove a younger universe, because if it is 6.5 billion years old, it would be a lot more chaotic.

I'd reccomend www.answersingenesis.com for further study of creation science if you're interested;)

But really, with all this science and ID verses evolution, we're losing sight of what really matters.....God! We focus so much on proving our point to the scientists who, most likely, will disregard everything we say. I'd say that it's time to focus on our faith and strengthening the faith of other Christians. We shouldn't focus on using science to convert atheists. We should focus on God's word. I've brought a few people over and I thank God for giving me the opportunity, but in those times, it wasn't science, but God and his word that convicted their hearts. So basically I'd like to get your opinions on this.

Walk with God

Jeff

I agree. I did some work at the real Noah's Ark:

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