~candice~ Posted August 15, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 15, 2009 Perhaps this deserves on left v's right a seperate thread? Mag - have you actually read his books on parenting? I think it is unpopular these days because discipline is unpopular. Children don't like it (although they thrive when they have clear boundaries that they can see) and parents find it is more work initially. I don't think it is about breaking the will of the child, but it is about firmly positioning the parents as the authority early on, and this is so important for the teenage years where children start to rebel. Dr Dobson, and indeed any christian, has the personal right to fight for morals and standards to remain in our community. Not all agenda's are bad!!!! I have one, and that is to plant seeds, the great commission. To know God and make Him known. That is a good agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted August 15, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 15, 2009 Perhaps this deserves on left v's right a seperate thread? Mag - have you actually read his books on parenting? I think it is unpopular these days because discipline is unpopular. Children don't like it (although they thrive when they have clear boundaries that they can see) and parents find it is more work initially. I don't think it is about breaking the will of the child, but it is about firmly positioning the parents as the authority early on, and this is so important for the teenage years where children start to rebel. Dr Dobson, and indeed any christian, has the personal right to fight for morals and standards to remain in our community. Not all agenda's are bad!!!! I have one, and that is to plant seeds, the great commission. To know God and make Him known. That is a good agenda. This "lefty" happens to be strong believer in the proper discipline of children. I even discipline other people's kids when they won't. I vote left too. Do you get permission from the parents to discipline their kids? The only people I want disciplining my children are those whose views on discipline are similar to mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted August 15, 2009 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted August 15, 2009 Keep talking, Sarah, keep talking! 2012 isn't all that far off! I agree the more she talks, the fewer people will want to vote for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted August 15, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Perhaps this deserves on left v's right a seperate thread? Mag - have you actually read his books on parenting? I think it is unpopular these days because discipline is unpopular. Children don't like it (although they thrive when they have clear boundaries that they can see) and parents find it is more work initially. I don't think it is about breaking the will of the child, but it is about firmly positioning the parents as the authority early on, and this is so important for the teenage years where children start to rebel. Dr Dobson, and indeed any christian, has the personal right to fight for morals and standards to remain in our community. Not all agenda's are bad!!!! I have one, and that is to plant seeds, the great commission. To know God and make Him known. That is a good agenda. This "lefty" happens to be strong believer in the proper discipline of children. I even discipline other people's kids when they won't. What gives you the right to discipline someone elses kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tah Posted August 15, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,131 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/12/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted August 15, 2009 I have found Dobson's teachings on child discipline to be spot on. Amen... I have always appreciated Dobson .. a Godly man... I could not have survived 6 children without his wisdom from God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColleenLovesMischief Posted August 15, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,791 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/21/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/13/1977 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Geez. Anyone who believes the proper way to raise a healthy child begins by breaking its will and subjecting it to abusive misinterpretation of all its actions and needs should never be regarded as authoritative in any way, shape or form. Sorry Dobson, you had most thinking people of faith at "hello" when you published massive tomes advocating the attitudes and practices of abuse as the "godly" way to rear children. You get no quarter here for dissing the president and playing your tiresome little party politics. Wake up, nobody's buying the "Christianity=Right-Wing-Agenda" brand of koolaid anymore. It has long since expired its sell-by date. You sure you weren't reading Gary Ezzo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted August 15, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 15, 2009 Geez. Anyone who believes the proper way to raise a healthy child begins by breaking its will and subjecting it to abusive misinterpretation of all its actions and needs should never be regarded as authoritative in any way, shape or form. Sorry Dobson, you had most thinking people of faith at "hello" when you published massive tomes advocating the attitudes and practices of abuse as the "godly" way to rear children. You get no quarter here for dissing the president and playing your tiresome little party politics. Wake up, nobody's buying the "Christianity=Right-Wing-Agenda" brand of koolaid anymore. It has long since expired its sell-by date. You sure you weren't reading Gary Ezzo? This does smell so much more like Ezzo, than Dobson. Ezzo - it's all about the parent, the child will conform to the parent's desires Dobson - it's all about the Lord, the parent will discipline the child to obey and desire God's ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamiam Posted August 16, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 188 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/29/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2009 I have been a listener and follower of Dr. Dobson for so many years and he is villified because he is a man of God, principled and wise. I find it disgusting that he is disparaged by some Christians who apparently have swallowed the line of garbage the media has been spewing for many years. Read the books, listen to the programs. Dr Dobson is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfBitn Posted August 19, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 483 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/22/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 19, 2009 Perhaps this deserves on left v's right a seperate thread? Mag - have you actually read his books on parenting? I think it is unpopular these days because discipline is unpopular. Children don't like it (although they thrive when they have clear boundaries that they can see) and parents find it is more work initially. I don't think it is about breaking the will of the child, but it is about firmly positioning the parents as the authority early on, and this is so important for the teenage years where children start to rebel. Dr Dobson, and indeed any christian, has the personal right to fight for morals and standards to remain in our community. Not all agenda's are bad!!!! I have one, and that is to plant seeds, the great commission. To know God and make Him known. That is a good agenda. This "lefty" happens to be strong believer in the proper discipline of children. I even discipline other people's kids when they won't. What gives you the right to discipline someone elses kids? The abdication of their parent's responsibility. It's not like I pick them up and spank them or anything. But I will let them know in no uncertain terms their behavior is inappropriate. I don't think that's illegal. yet. you're WHINING at the kids then, thats not discipline, and as soon as they turn the corner they are laughing at you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evetsegap Posted February 6, 2010 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 49 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/29/1956 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Geez. Anyone who believes the proper way to raise a healthy child begins by breaking its will and subjecting it to abusive misinterpretation of all its actions and needs should never be regarded as authoritative in any way, shape or form. Sorry Dobson, you had most thinking people of faith at "hello" when you published massive tomes advocating the attitudes and practices of abuse as the "godly" way to rear children. You get no quarter here for dissing the president and playing your tiresome little party politics. Wake up, nobody's buying the "Christianity=Right-Wing-Agenda" brand of koolaid anymore. It has long since expired its sell-by date. Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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