Nephew and Half Aunts

[Nicks Girl]

I know a couple who are half aunt and nephew (the same age) and they have fallen for each other. Is this type of relationship covered under those verses? I've been trying to help them find information about their relationship. Here are some websites that show how related they are, as far as genetics go. They are on the same level it appears as 1st cousins.

I would love some incite to this, and whether or not their relationship is a sin.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/b...ed_parents?open

http://fabpedigree.com/consang.htm

[IslandRose]

They need to look into the laws in their own state. Most places treat half siblings as full by law. LadyC may have more info for you as she is studied up on consanguinity. You could PM her.

[Iryssa]

Generally I think the Bible just called called half-brothers brothers (see, for instance, Joseph and his brothers), so in my opinion it would be covered.

[elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid]

Generally I think the Bible just called called half-brothers brothers (see, for instance, Joseph and his brothers), so in my opinion it would be covered.

hi Iryssa,

Culturally, even all cousins would be called "brothers", they didn't even use a word for cousins in the Aramaic, only brothers for all. Not like in English where we differentiate for brother or cousins etc etc. Brothers was used differently than how we use it. So, it would not indicate immediate brothers ( in all cases at all) as we would use it nowadays.

take care,

elkie

[elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid]

I know a couple who are half aunt and nephew (the same age) and they have fallen for each other. Is this type of relationship covered under those verses? I've been trying to help them find information about their relationship. Here are some websites that show how related they are, as far as genetics go. They are on the same level it appears as 1st cousins.

I would love some incite to this, and whether or not their relationship is a sin.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/b...ed_parents?open

http://fabpedigree.com/consang.htm

HI Nick's Girl,

I am not sure what to say on this, except one of the very important things is that possible genetic health problems may present in health for children and that should be taken into serious consideration also, for persons so closely related.

A half sister is still a sister though! So, a half aunt would still be ones mothers (or fathers) sister, if one is a nephew or niece. After all half is Not like none. I can't cut people into halves in this one, personally. (It is too close relative to me, I know it's my personal opinion. I hope others can be more help)

If they are Christians , I do hope they carefully, prayerfully weigh this out , pray this out. I have not heard of such a thing before myself in this closely related persons. Have you talked to a priest? I ask because they have a lot of Biblical information in depth (this may have come up in past and they would know) and it just might prove helpful.

take care,

elkie

[Willow325]

I know a couple who are half aunt and nephew (the same age) and they have fallen for each other. Is this type of relationship covered under those verses? I've been trying to help them find information about their relationship. Here are some websites that show how related they are, as far as genetics go. They are on the same level it appears as 1st cousins.

I would love some incite to this, and whether or not their relationship is a sin.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/b...ed_parents?open

http://fabpedigree.com/consang.htm

The Book of Leviticus expands on the Ten Commandments. It breaks them down into more detailed categories. Leviticus 18:1-30. It deals with all kinds of sexual relationships. Everything is covered. Look at Lev. 18:6 and on

No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations.

Do not have sexual relations

with your father's wife.... with your sister, either your father's daughter or your mother's daughter.... with your son's daughter or your daughter's daughter..... with the daughter of your father's wife..... with your father's sister.... with your mother's sister.... with your brother's wife.... with your daughter in law..... with both a woman and her daughter.... or her son's daughter or her daughter's daughter.... with your neighbor's wife

Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman.

Do not have sexual relations with an animal....

Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled.

Even if one was an atheist, one should consider the birth defects of having sexual relations with someone who is a close relative. Condoms and birth control pills don't always work, so to have relations with someone close is very risky indeed.

[elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid]

I have to agree with you on this willow. Gods gives good advice for important reasons, no matter if people believe in God or not, God knows what HE is talking about and found it important enough to let people know in His Holy Bible.

[Iryssa]

Generally I think the Bible just called called half-brothers brothers (see, for instance, Joseph and his brothers), so in my opinion it would be covered.

hi Iryssa,

Culturally, even all cousins would be called "brothers", they didn't even use a word for cousins in the Aramaic, only brothers for all. Not like in English where we differentiate for brother or cousins etc etc. Brothers was used differently than how we use it. So, it would not indicate immediate brothers ( in all cases at all) as we would use it nowadays.

take care,

elkie

Okay, good point, but when you consider context I think it's still safe to say that it would be included. There is the whole "either your father's daughter or your mother's daughter" thing.

[elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid]

Generally I think the Bible just called called half-brothers brothers (see, for instance, Joseph and his brothers), so in my opinion it would be covered.

hi Iryssa,

Culturally, even all cousins would be called "brothers", they didn't even use a word for cousins in the Aramaic, only brothers for all. Not like in English where we differentiate for brother or cousins etc etc. Brothers was used differently than how we use it. So, it would not indicate immediate brothers ( in all cases at all) as we would use it nowadays.

take care,

elkie

Okay, good point, but when you consider context I think it's still safe to say that it would be included. There is the whole "either your father's daughter or your mother's daughter" thing.

Yes, Iryssa,

I agree in this case, certainly is too close relative. ( I mentioned the other because in many instances in the Aramaic brother is used even when referring to cousins was all. Maybe that was off the point in that comment about language. But, I think my other comments explain what I am thinking anyway.) the Scriptures we are looking at here are in Hebrew and they expound enough to be clear. Not meaning this too close family relationship was okay at all or that it is alright, I think it is not alright to have this inter family relationship personally. These persons will need to do some real searching in prayer and the Bible to do what is right and not let only feelings dictate for them. The Lord can touch their hearts and help them in this if they seek Him. Maybe they need our prayers too for help in this situation.

Take care,

elkie

[damo1]

There is a couple who are going threw this know in Australia and this has been in the papers and in the news

the daughter is only 39 and the father is 60 yrs old after so many failed relationships the daughter moved in with her father and soon fell in love with him both are on unemployment benifits and live in a clos nit community in south Australia

when word got out that the daughter was sleeping and dating her father the locals did not like it department off community services got involved due to one child dying at such a young age

there home was egged and they lived in fear they had threatening letters left in there letter box and the police could not prottect them if some one decided to hurt the father

60 min did a story on the father and daughter and they got payed for the interview as the reporter who did the story saw how poor they were so they brought the whole family new clothes from a local target store and got some things for the kids

this couple is know having to move from their community and they plan to set up a web page to offer support for fathers brothers and sisters who end up in relationships with their siblings

the bible gives us guide lines how to deal with this i cal this incest i also had some personal things i was dealing with as my own father forced me to sleep with my half sister slowly she is starting to let go of what he put us threw and i am praying that our relationship is restored as brother and sister

this does happen a lot in smal communitys and in the broader world

i reported a guy to department off community services who is having a relationship with his younger sister she is only 14 and he is 39yrs old though nothing has been done the department has not investigated and i found out that her other brothers are know doing the same thing i feel for this young girl

though half aunt half nephew it depends on the law and what the courts guide lines are if they are in love then their is nothing you can do all you can do is put what you are feeling to the side and offer your friendship and try not to judge

God bless from damo