Satan and the cross.

[tigger398]

Ok ok this may not make sence so bare with me, as far as I know satan had alot to do with killing Jesus correct ?? but Jesus was God, what was in satan's thick head that he can win, but the new test. wasn't made till after Jesus died right ??? ok this is weird the old test which was written yrs before Jesus. It said he was gonna die. How can satan not know.

[tigger398]

Ok ok this may not make sence so bare with me, as far as I know satan had alot to do with killing Jesus correct ?? but Jesus was God what was in satan's thick head that he can win, but the new test. wasn't made till after Jesus died right ??? ok this is weird the old test which was written yrs before Jesus said he was gonna die. How can satan not know.

I am not too sure that Satan reads the Bible!

I think that in his arrogance Satan thinks that he can over come God, that he can win the battle and take the place of God. Otherwise he would have never rebelled in the first place.

He knows bible front and back

[tigger398]

He knows bible front and back

it was sort of a joke.

oh sorry

[sweetycakes]

I think that it was probably more a case of satan 'having nothing to lose', so to speak.

It reminds me of a case known as the 'Dunblane' massacre in Scotland, where a man, who was formerly a Scout master, who was accused of sexually abusing several children, walked into a primary school one day and shot to death 16 children (aged 4 to 5), and their teacher, before turning the gun on himself.

Why did he do that?

Well........probably because he thought that he had 'nothing to lose'.

This makes him all the more dangerous.

It's the same with satan. He will never repent. He will never control his urges. He will never back off. For whatever reason, this is the case, according to my understanding of the Bible.

So he does whatever is within his power to inflict as much damage and heartache as possible, within his given time, and 'to hell with the consequences'.

That is my simplistic opinion, anyway.

Satan is not to be given any sympathy. He is out to do as much damage as possible. As he always was. He is the true enemy of God, and of man. The sooner he is destroyed, the better.

I think that satan knows (or knew) that he could never be reconciled with God. Nor did he want to. His only intention was to cause as much havoc as possible within his allotted time. This has been borne out by all the murders and evil that has been witnessed in the world since the fall of man.

So, whether satan knew or not what would be the outcome of inciting people to hate Jesus, his intention was always the same......to try and dethrone God, and rule in His stead, bringing in his wake all the misery and suffering that he could muster.

Thank God for Jesus.

He knew the beginning from the end.

And He overcame.

For us

[EricH]

It is a difficlut question to answer, since the scriptures don't address it at all.

[stacey c]

I'd have to agree sweety cakes, I don't think satan knew the end result of the cross. If he did he would never have conspired to put Christ on it. Too bad he loses!!!!!

[sweetycakes]

I'd have to agree sweety cakes, I don't think satan knew the end result of the cross. If he did he would never have conspired to put Christ on it. Too bad he loses!!!!!

Well.........God has a way of turning things that are intended for evil, to our good, and to His glory. He knows the end from the beginning.

That is why it is said, "He reigns from everlasting, to everlasting"

From everlasting to everlasting

The Lord is God

Honour and Majesty are before Him

Strength and beauty in His sanctuary

Everlasting to everlasting

His love is set on me

So I'll praise Him

And dance before Him

And worship Him in the liberty

Wherewith the Son of God has set me free

[Guest]

Ok ok this may not make sense so bare with me, as far as I know satan had alot to do with killing Jesus correct ?? but Jesus was God what was in satan's thick head that he can win, but the new test. wasn't made till after Jesus died right ??? ok this is weird the old test which was written yrs before Jesus said he was gonna die. How can satan not know.

I am not too sure that Satan reads the Bible!

I think that in his arrogance Satan thinks that he can over come God, that he can win the battle and take the place of God. Otherwise he would have never rebelled in the first place.

Satan Is So NOT A Believer

Fallen Sons

The Fallen Son Of The Morning

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:

I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;

I will be like the most High. Isaiah 14:12-14

And Jesus Gives Us Another Peek Into The Character Of This Most Ungrateful Creature

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.

When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44

But To The Fallen Son's Of Adam God Offers His Gift Of Faith By Grace

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

The Gift Of Belief In The LORD Jesus To Whosoever Will

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

The Gift Of Belief In The Bible

Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. Jeremiah 15:16

The Gift Of Redemption

And they sung a new song, saying,

Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof:

for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; Revelation 5:9

The Gift Of Rebirth

And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts,

crying, Abba,

Father. Galatians 4:6

Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:5-6

[sweetycakes]

I'd have to agree sweety cakes, I don't think satan knew the end result of the cross. If he did he would never have conspired to put Christ on it. Too bad he loses!!!!!

- For both statements! (Cept I don't think it's bad that he loses )

I Corinthians 2:7-8

But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

I'm so glad you asked this question Tigger, because I have wondered the same thing for a long time. In fact, I thought for awhile that satan didn't have anything to do with Jesus' death (how could he do something so silly?). Scripture says he didn't know so that's what I believe, but it still doesn't make sense to me.

I don't think he knew what would be the outcome of Jesus' death..........but he knew full well what were his own intentions.

To dethrone God.

He lost

[Guest]

Hallelujah

Praise His Holy Name