Larry 2 Posted August 25, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 791 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 205 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 25, 2008 I have asked this question in replies in other threads to no avail, but to know how someone interprets Revelation in its different events determines their stance on the rapture of the Church; pre, mid, or post tribulation. To make sure you understand what I am asking, when does the seven years of tribulation start according to scripture. Please give scriptures or explanations of events with scripture to substantiate your views. Just the facts folk and no arguments - We be brethren Thanks to all in Jesus' name - larry2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Dannyboy Posted August 25, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 156 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,454 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/02/1969 Share Posted August 25, 2008 As I understand it, the tribulation will begin 3.5 years after the treaty is signed. When THAT happens we cannot say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted August 25, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 25, 2008 God has not opened my understanding on this subject clear enough to give an answer, so I do not. Instead, I see it important to be ready at all times. God has not promised me that I will be here for the rapture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted August 25, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,041 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 425 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 25, 2008 I have asked this question in replies in other threads to no avail, but to know how someone interprets Revelation in its different events determines their stance on the rapture of the Church; pre, mid, or post tribulation. To make sure you understand what I am asking, when does the seven years of tribulation start according to scripture. Please give scriptures or explanations of events with scripture to substantiate your views. Just the facts folk and no arguments - We be brethren Thanks to all in Jesus' name - larry2 Since I do not subscribe to the 7 year theory I have nothing to submit . . . But I was hoping some would actually do this, "give scriptures or explanations of events with scripture to substantiate your views." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Come Quickly LORD Jesus, Come Quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry 2 Posted August 25, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 791 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 205 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 As I understand it, the tribulation will begin 3.5 years after the treaty is signed. When THAT happens we cannot say. You are right in part brother. Daniel 9:27 says "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (That is 2520 days - the midst of that is the 1260 days or 3 1/2 years you mentioned): and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. . . " This "he" in this verse pertains to but one, and that is the antichrist. The "And" at the beginning of the verse links the "he" in Verse 27 back to Verse Daniel 9:26 where we read that the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary, and of course that happened in A.D. 71. But now we are looking down to the time of the 1260 days of tribulation to come after the midst of the week known as the great tribulation (People have went through the first 3 1/2 years of the seven years known in Revelation 3:10 as the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth, but they ain't seen nothng yet. Here comes the second half of the tribulation. But again we need a starting place of the original 2520 days in Revelation. Any ideas? We should be able to see where God is ready to pour out His judgment. Thanks for you response in Jesus - larry2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry 2 Posted August 25, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 791 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 205 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 I believe the tribulation is described in Revelation chapters 6-18. I believe that chapters 6-18 run simultaneous not chronological, I also believe the tribulation is 3.5 years long not 7 years long. You might read the previous response I made to O'Dannyboy as to pertaining to the 3 1/2 years, but you are correct in saying that from Revelation Chapter 6 events are not chronological. Chapter 6 is somewhat of an index of the next chapters. Thanks ezekiel33 in Jesus - larry2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry 2 Posted August 25, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 791 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 205 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 God has not opened my understanding on this subject clear enough to give an answer, so I do not. Instead, I see it important to be ready at all times. God has not promised me that I will be here for the rapture. Dear OneLight, the best part of what you said was "I see it important to be ready at all times." FresnoJoe said very much the same thing; "Come Quickly LORD Jesus, Come Quickly." One of my previous pastors said "We are not told the exact day the Lord is going to come, but we should live every day as if He were going to come today." And that is so true. Thanks in the name of Jesus - larry2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted August 25, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,041 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 425 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 25, 2008 As I understand it, the tribulation will begin 3.5 years after the treaty is signed. When THAT happens we cannot say. You are right in part brother. Daniel 9:27 says "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (That is 2520 days - the midst of that is the 1260 days or 3 1/2 years you mentioned): and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. . . " This "he" in this verse pertains to but one, and that is the antichrist. The "And" at the beginning of the verse links the "he" in Verse 27 back to Verse Daniel 9:26 where we read that the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary, and of course that happened in A.D. 71. But now we are looking down to the time of the 1260 days of tribulation to come after the midst of the week known as the great tribulation (People have went through the first 3 1/2 years of the seven years known in Revelation 3:10 as the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth, but they ain't seen nothng yet. Here comes the second half of the tribulation. But again we need a starting place of the original 2520 days in Revelation. Any ideas? We should be able to see where God is ready to pour out His judgment. Thanks for you response in Jesus - larry2 What if your "he" is not the Antichrist? What if your "he" is really "He . . . Messiah the Prince, the Christ?" Can you prove any Hebrew distinction between "Prince" in verse 25 and "prince in verse 26? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraught Posted August 25, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,741 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/23/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/30/1959 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Jesus tells us in matthew 24: 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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