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Belief vs. Unbelief

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I'll try to make this as short as possible since I don't like to read long posts myself.

In the beginning of the Book, in the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve were forbidden to eat from only one tree - the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. The other tree that God named specifically was the tree of Life. And of that tree God said for them to eat freely.

In God's instructions regarding the trees, Adam and Eve did not believe, or they would not have disobeyed. I believe unbelief came before anything else in the situation. The two trees symbolize 'unbelief' and 'belief'. The tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (unbelief) and the tree of Life (belief).

At the end of Jesus' life at Calvary, the two criminals also being crucified were an unbeliever and a believer. That scene shows us a picture of the world today. Jesus is in the middle and you have two choices - belief or unbelief.

Look at the world today. With what is going on regarding the persecution of Christians, the word "GOD" and its use in our pledge of allegiance, homosexuals "marrying", crosses being torn down, etc., we see that it is a simple matter of either belief or unbelief. Are you eating of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil or the tree of Life, which is just God Himself?

I even believe that in the United States of America the two political parties are evolving into the parties of belief in God or those who do not. If you look closely, Republicans are evolving into the believers and Democrats are evolving into the unbelievers.

I had asked about the verse James 2:10, "For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all", as it applies to the 'Ten Commandments'. If you stumble on the one point "You shall have no other gods before Me", then it doesn't matter if you are able to keep the other nine. You are an unbeliever and no matter how 'good' you are, you are still lost.

Here is the command from God in the New Testament: "- - - that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He (Jesus) gave us commandment." 1 John 3:23.

There is nothing new. Belief or unbelief. That is the only issue in our lives today.

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I think it would put it into better context if you read the following in light of the question:

Gen. 3:22 Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"-- 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken.

Here's a portion of something I posted a while back:

The Question

The question is not, "Can man save himself?", we know he can't. The question is, "Can man recognize he is a sinner?"

Yes he can.

Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Genesis 3:11 And He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?"

(OT) Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

(NT) Romans 7:13 Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no means! It was sin, working death in me through what is good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might become sinful beyond measure.

In His Love,

Suzanne

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:rofl: Unbelief didn't have much to do with it. They believed the serpent when he said that the LORD had lied to them.

Nothing has changed much. With all the false doctrines that have been accepted for cenruries.

Now CHRIST who is the LORD said.

Lu 17:6

So the Lord said, "If you have faith as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, 'Be pulled up by the roots and be planted in the sea,' and it would obey you.

Mt 17:20

So Jesus said to them, "Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.

Why do you not beleive HIM?

Deuteronomy 32:9 For the Lord's portion is His people :rofl:

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Jesus Christ Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

Au contrair (spelling?); God had already said man was 'made in the image of God'. Or to put it as it appears in the Septuagint 'Adam was made the icon of God.' So Adam and Eve WERE ALREADY LIKE GOD!!! The unbelieve comes into play when satan tells them God has 'held out' on them..."If you'll reach out for this fruit...THEN you'll be 'like God.'

How often does satan do the same thing today. "Oh, if you'll pray more...or fast more....or read your Bible more....." THEN you'll be more like God. It is all based on Jesus Christ and His atonement. I need 'reach' no further than the Tree of Calvary.

With a blessing,

Leonard, a sinner

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:rofl: Unbelief didn't have much to do with it. They believed the serpent when he said that the LORD had lied to them.

God spoke to them first and told them something. Satan then refuted that with a half truth.

It seems to me that before they could believe Satan, they would have to disbelieve God.

Unbelief came first. :rofl:

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The serpent perverted and twisted what god had said and lied to eve saying you will not die. before that adam and eve had no need to know the difference between good and evil.

Deuteronomy 32:9 For the Lord's portion is His people :t2:

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The serpent perverted and twisted what god had said and lied to eve saying you will not die. before that adam and eve had no need to know the difference between good and evil.

Deuteronomy 32:9 For the Lord's portion is His people  :blink:

IXOYE

What are you saying or implying regarding belief or unbelief? :D I'm not following you.

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Eve was deceived:

1 Tim 2:14

And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

Adam deliberately disobeyed and listened to Eve.

Gen 3:17

To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,' "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life.

Rom 5:12

Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned

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