Guest lordsportion Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 The LORDS eye is on the sinfull nation. Judgement starts at HIS temple. The main beast is the united states but babylon (confussion) is his church. The false prophet sits as leader of the kingdom speaking falsehoods in Christs name. The LORDS two witnesses come to shut down the entire world and bring the order to come out from among them and be seperate. Deuteronomy 32:9 For the Lord's portion is His people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 1, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 527 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hi Yod, God loves ya But you did not answer my questions. Is that because you can't? Here they are again. 1. If what you say is true Yod, do the religious systems of the world today that you say is Babylon, sell chariots or slaves or human lives? Quote: There is no port within sight of Jerusalem. It can not be reached by sea or even a boat. The Jordan River is about 3 feet deep at Jericho....about 15 miles to the east. That Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 1, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 527 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 1, 2004 How Jerusalem Fell Here is a brief sketch of how Jerusalem fell. I have deliberately left out many of the graphic details of this conflict. However, if one reads the full account given by historians such as Josephus, it becomes quite clear that this period was the worst tribulation Israel had ever known or will ever know. When it was all done, the bodies of those who died from starvation and bloodshed filled the streets, Jerusalem was in complete ruins, and the temple was torn down with not one stone left on top of another. The friction between Rome and the Jews began to intensify around 60 A.D. By 66 A.D. the situation had become a powder keg ready to ignite. Israel itself was deeply divided between those who favored peace with Rome and those who believed that God would deliver them from Roman rule. The chief supporters of peace were the temple priesthood and many of the rich and affluent Jews. Those who pursed war were known as the zealots. Many of these were fanatics that believed God had chosen them to deliver Israel. Roman corruption and abuses led to open rebellion in 66 A.D., but when the Jews stopped the twice daily sacrifices for Caesar in the Temple, this was considered an act of war. This caused hostilities to increase dramatically. Menahem, a messiah figure, gained early success against the Romans killing many of them. He entered Jerusalem dressed as a king, seized the temple complex, and had the High Priest put to death. Menahem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 After that first post I was just going to cruise. It makes no sense to argue with you, Brad. But that second post was fascinating.....I liked your history lesson. Yet it doesn't change what the prophets have to say about Israel's present and future.....and how they came back after almost 2,000 years to their homeland and their capital, Jerusalem. Do you see no significance to that at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 2, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 527 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 2, 2004 After that first post I was just going to cruise. It makes no sense to argue with you, Brad. But that second post was fascinating.....I liked your history lesson. Yet it doesn't change what the prophets have to say about Israel's present and future.....and how they came back after almost 2,000 years to their homeland and their capital, Jerusalem. Do you see no significance to that at all? Yod I see no scriptural fulfillment to Israel today, but I think it is great that they have a homeland. The only problem is that the Muslim world has a problem with it. The Muslims are a big problem for the whole world period. They need an attitude adjustment from the Lord and I suport Bush with His war on terrism. Something needs to be done and if it takes war then so be it. Here is another thing about old Jerusalem. Just a small note about Herod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Yod I see no scriptural fulfillment to Israel today, is there nothing future left in the Bible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted June 3, 2004 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Be careful. Yod, or this heretic will have converted to preterism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted June 3, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 8,601 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/16/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/04/1973 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Be careful. Yod, or this heretic will have converted to preterism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 3, 2004 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,134 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 Well, this has been an interesting discussion, but I am still left with wondering if I should trade my travel trailer and big gas gusseling pickup truck in for a good sailboat and head out for the south pacific to "get out of her"...... I think I'll just go fishin' for a couple of weeks starting this Saturday and ponder the question. Who knows maybe there really will be a pre trib raputre and I won't have to come back and go to work Whatever the case I'll not be posting for a couple of weeks after tomorrow..... Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted June 4, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2004 Have a great fishing trip Sam :t3: hope you catch a big one :t: All Praise The Ancient Of Days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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