Adopted children

[Guest man]

What do you get from this verse?

For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.

I get that there are unregenerate people in the church who will quit because of religion not "working for them". I also get that a person who is an adopted child of GOD who returns to their sinul ways will not find happiness. But, GOD will not disown them.

Could you please answer these questions?

On the day we all stand before God, what will happen to those who have never known the ways of righteousness?

What will happen to those who never came to know the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?

They will be cast into the lake of fire.

So if the ones who have never known the way righteousness are thrown into the lake of fire, and God states that, "it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them", what will happen to the ones who turn away from the commandments?

What could possibly be worst than being thrown into the lake of fire?

It is likely that there are degrees of suffering. Those who knew the truth and rejected it anyway, will suffer to a far greater degree than someone who did not hear the truth.

Where will that suffering take place?

[kross]

Salvation is a free gift from GOD. Not of works, lest any man should boast. We are not saved "if we are good enough" we are saved as a gift from GOD, our adoption as HIS dear children.

[Guest man]

Salvation is a free gift from GOD. Not of works, lest any man should boast. We are not saved "if we are good enough" we are saved as a gift from GOD, our adoption as HIS dear children.

Is that a "yes" to this question?

So one could walk away from God, live a life of sin, and in the end still end up in heaven?

[kross]

Salvation is a free gift from GOD. Not of works, lest any man should boast. We are not saved "if we are good enough" we are saved as a gift from GOD, our adoption as HIS dear children.

Is that a "yes" to this question?

So one could walk away from God, live a life of sin, and in the end still end up in heaven?

YES, I am absolutely confident that there will be people who died in the gutters, strung out on drugs and booze, who will be in heaven simply because they were trusting in JESUS to save their souls.

The gospel is foolishness. Salvation can not be earned, or maintained, by any amount of good wrks.

[Guest man]

Salvation is a free gift from GOD. Not of works, lest any man should boast. We are not saved "if we are good enough" we are saved as a gift from GOD, our adoption as HIS dear children.

Is that a "yes" to this question?

So one could walk away from God, live a life of sin, and in the end still end up in heaven?

YES

Even if they were unrepentant until death?

[kross]

Salvation is a free gift from GOD. Not of works, lest any man should boast. We are not saved "if we are good enough" we are saved as a gift from GOD, our adoption as HIS dear children.

Is that a "yes" to this question?

So one could walk away from God, live a life of sin, and in the end still end up in heaven?

YES

Even if they were unrepentant until death?

GOD will not leave them unrepentant until death. It is the job of the HOLY SPIRIT to see to that. The HOLY SPIRIT never fails.

[Guest man]

Even if they were unrepentant until death?

GOD will not leave them unrepentant until death. It is the job of the HOLY SPIRIT to see to that. The HOLY SPIRIT never fails.

Where does it state that?

[kross]

Even if they were unrepentant until death?

GOD will not leave them unrepentant until death. It is the job of the HOLY SPIRIT to see to that. The HOLY SPIRIT never fails.

Where does it state that?

Which one, that GOD never fails or that HE will save those who are HIS chosen?

[Guest man]

Even if they were unrepentant until death?

GOD will not leave them unrepentant until death. It is the job of the HOLY SPIRIT to see to that. The HOLY SPIRIT never fails.

Where does it state that?

Which one, that GOD never fails or that HE will save those who are HIS chosen?

Let's not start playing word games.

You know what I'm asking.

[Guest man]

GOD will not leave them unrepentant until death. It is the job of the HOLY SPIRIT to see to that. The HOLY SPIRIT never fails.

In this passage, it states that "God gave them over to a debased mind".

What does that mean?

Romans 1

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;

29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,

30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful;

32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.