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Blessings Very funny! Love,Kwik

That's an interesting way to look at it Marilyn, the thing is I don't think His consuming fire means eternal torment in the lake of fire. Or maybe I didn't understand you correctly.... Hi Hall, I think I am thinking that, if you know what I mean. That is pondering & thinking on this subject & the consuming fire is what I see beyond the protection of our Lord, who is also a `wall of fire,` (Isa. I think) for those who turn to Him. Beyond His protection is just `consuming fire,` eternally. Absolute horror. Marilyn. (Just thoughts)

I am reminded of the old joke about the dyslexic agnostic who was up all night pondering the existence of dog.

Jerry, there is a lot of that in Haiti also.. There is serious demonology there that was brought on by the government and the people as a whole.

Actually it would be a good idea ncn to post who to contact for the passwords. For instance, on youth and ladies forums, candice is listed as a contact and she has not been around here for years. So please post who members should contact for each of the 3 forums. To help avoid confusion and frustration.

Matthew 5:48 - God is perfect and, so, the standard that He sets is perfect. It can be nothing less or God would be compromising His own perfection. Even the standard of the law is perfection. But, it's an unattainable standard for people to meet. But that's the glory of the gospel. Jesus met that standard for us, on our behalf. 2 Corinthians 12:9 - Being that God is perfect, so is everything about Him, including His strength. I love that the verb tense in this scripture is present tense, not past tense. God's strength IS perfect in our weaknesses. His grace IS sufficient. They're constantly available. What's being said in this scripture is that God's grace and strength shine through our weaknesses. The weaker we are, the more they shine through. James 1:4 - This scripture is a reference to our spiritual maturity, not sinless perfection. The testing of our faith is intended to drive us deeper into communion, trust and faith in Jesus. Those are qualities that make us complete, or whole. 1 John 4:18 - Again, God is perfect. And, since God IS love (it's not just an attribute of His), that Love is perfect. Love is the confidence we have in fear and judgment. Romans 7:14-24 tells us that as long as we're in our bodies, we're going to struggle with our sinful nature. Sinless perfection won't be reached until we get to heaven. But, as we go through life's trials (and blessings) we're BEING perfected and sanctified. We're maturing. It's an ongoing process, one that we should always be striving to move forward in. The disciples all that they weren't perfect. They all struggled with sin. We can't claim otherwise. Jesus' perfection is imputed to us, even though we are continually maturing in holiness. Hebrews 10:14, "For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified."

Hi, RW. Where I am now...is good? "For it is God in you, both to will and to do of His good pleasure." Yes, it would seem that it is good. That said, it is yet *very* unpleasant. And despite repeated calls to the Lord, the heaviness remains. I speculate something of what wingnut said ("there is something I should be doing") plays into this, but I'm not entirely convinced. Another idea is that of God grooming for something, so that the experience I am having is indeed "good", is not a result of any wrong doing on my part, and will eventually work itself out to my pleasure (for having done something according to the will of God) and His glory and honour. And I would speculate that you do not seek to minister again until your spiritual house is in order A sound speculation, which of course is one of the most painful realities of this whole circumstance. It comes down to a question of why such a passion was put in me when in the end I am to be muzzled . The things of this world leave such a bad taste in my mouth, so the relevance of my life has all but disappeared. How tempting it is to say "I just don't know what to do", but I refrain, knowing the answer most, if not all, will give is to pray to God for answers and do what it is He is telling you to do in order to correct the situation. No sense enduring the repetition, right? If I may be blunt.....you have to learn how to be you. I also started my Christian life at full speed, and very soon jumped into ministry with both feet and it was an awesome time... but I had an eye on being a pulpit pounder in front of a mega church and God had a different idea. I was fortunate to have a friend who felt no compunction about grabbing me by the nose and slapping me around a bit unto I was in a state to listen. And God finally got my attention. we are trees.....we don't GO into our ministries...we GROW into them. God has set us on the path of our service and when we try and change that course things go awry, the train jumps the track. Take time now to grow into yourself, rebuilt the foundation in you and you will find opportunities will present themselves to you. They may not be in the way you expect or even frankly, want. But they are the best for us. God gave you a nature, and He gave it to you for a reason...HIS reason. When you have reached solid ground and are back in a good place I am sure God will show it to you. Right now, if your anything like me, if he told you what it was, you would probably jump right in. But the time is not yet...soon...but not yet

All the above replies are wonderful, A very good question and a very good replies, Yes it is better we allow God to justify our trust in Him,in His own way, rather than trying to help Him, As Abraham did,and cause problem to his God promised children, Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord,and whose hope the Lord is, Jeremiah 17:7" As it is written" I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go:I will guide thee with my eye. Psalm 32:8" Trusting in the Lord, you must be willing,obedient,patience,and be conversant with the word of God, As it is written. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet,and a light unto my path. Psalm 119:105" you need to ask God to empower you or to give you the grace to do His will and to live a godly life. As it is written. O thou that hearest prayer,unto thee shall all flesh come, Psalm 65:2" Jesus is Lord.

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We know the spirit is born again and born of God, holy and new (2 Cor 5:17) We know the flesh is corrupt and it always will be until we breath our last breath and then there is the battle ground The soul AKA Mind will and emotions Romans 12 tells us we have to RENEW our minds.....and if that is something WE have to renew it can't be something GOD made new (the spirit as in 2nd Cor 5: 17) and it is not something that will always be corrupt (the body) So that means it is a third part of us, and imagine that we are three in one....made in the image of God so to repeat 1. The Spirit is Made New By God (2nd Cor 5:17) 2. The Body is corrupt and will be until resurrection (Revelation 21) 3. The Mind (the soul) is something WE have to renew. (Romans 12:2)

~ And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. Genesis 6:5-9